Who Is Andrew K Fletcher?

For more than 23 years, Andrew, 60 years young, has worked tirelessly, selflessly, and self-funded. He has been helping people around the world regain control of their health by simply advising them to raise their beds at the head end to a five-degree angle.  

This is based on his new understanding of the role that gravity plays in driving our circulation.  

As a free-thinking child, Andrew would take things apart, needing to understand how it all works.  He did the same with the science text books, which he states will never look the same again.  He openly admits to being a difficult, stubborn student questioning lessons and tutors, rather than accepting subject content as facts.  Andrew left school early to enter a career as a vehicle mechanic, later moving into heavy engineering as a fabricator welder, and obtained many other skills from a wide range of disciplines.

Andrew’s love of the natural world and problem solving was fuelled through absorbing countless Open University Programmes (OUP) about nature, history, science, medicine, art and engineering.  As a moralist, philosopher and a humanist Andrew has much to say about poverty and inequality throughout the world.

How Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT) Started

Odd as it may seem, Andrew’s insatiable appetite for problem solving was aroused by a television programme addressing irrigation problems in deserts in 1994. The Operation OASIS (Overseas Arid Soil Irrigation Solution) project found that soil was made too salty by high evaporation, effectively rendering soils unproductive.  However, in the backdrop from the camera footage, Andrew noticed that the trees appeared to be unaffected by the same irrigated water.  

He asked: What are trees doing with salts and minerals?

To answer this problem Andrew obtained a textbook: McKean, DG. GCSE Biology. Hodder Murray, 1989.  McKean was very critical of the explanations of sap flow and lack of supporting evidence for fluid transportation in plants and trees.  These unconvincing descriptions prompted Andrew to re-examine the facts and ignore all unsubstantiated assumptions of a one-way flow to the tree’s canopy.

Andrew reasoned that if a tree stood vertically it was using gravity in its long tubular structures.  If it was not using gravity it would grow horizontally!  It is a fact that 98% of the water entering through the tree’s roots evaporates through the leaves.  This process is called transpiration.

Andrew applied his knowledge and experience of siphons and non—pumped hot water systems to build up a hypothesis.  The simple flow and return mechanism of a non-pumped hot water system relies upon density changes.  Heat from a boiler causes water to rise.  The transfer of heat from a tubular coil inside a tank to the hot water supply causes the water inside the coil to cool, making it denser, generating an efficient gravity driven return flow.

Recently, his experiment at Brixham, Devon, where he caused water to flow vertically up 24 meters in a single open ended tube, was verified in Nature Journal, under Scientific Reports, after three doctors tested it to 15 meters to try to determine the height limit of a siphon, which is believed to be 10 metres. Initially, no recognition was given to Andrew.  This has since been corrected in a Corrigendum, attached to the original publication.  

Sap Circulation Discovery

Andrew then applied the analogy of a simple flow and return system to the tree.  The tree is warmed by the sun and transfers heat to the tree’s long continuous tube cell structures.   It made sense.
Realising that for sap density changes to take place and initiate circulation, it would require the down flow to be denser than the return flow.  McKean confirmed this to be the case in his book but this explanation was not sufficient to explain observed sap flow rates.  

Andrew concluded that the leaves producing sugar by converting carbon dioxide in a process called photosynthesis combined with dissolved nutrients and minerals from the soil water, increases sap density in the leaves.  

Evaporation from the leaves serves to further increase sap density by the same amount of water loss from transpiration.  Transpiration is the process of water movement to the atmosphere,  from aerial parts such as leaves, stems and flowers, by evaporation.   

Therefore, soil water entering the tree from the roots contains a dissolved, dilute solution of minerals and nutrients, dilutes sap density. Dilute sap flows up the tree transported in the xylem vessels , which are long thin non-living tubes, powered by the loading and concentration of sap with sugars produced by the leaves  which flows down in the aptly named phloem vessels to a sink (lower  reciprocal).   

The sink is always the path of least resistance and can be fruits, where sugars are stored. Or by being taken up in the trees continual cycle of expansion and growth in the trunk and branches, providing the tree with a means to offload sugars and nutrients from the heavier downward flowing sap, ultimately reaching the roots under a positive pressure.  (Think of sap flow behaving like a liquid plunger in a syringe, creating a positive pressure in front and a lower pressure behind it)

Having off loaded sugars and nutrients on it's journey down the tree, the sap becomes less dense and is ultimately re-diluted by incoming water from the soil into the roots, pulled into the tree by the lower pressure generated in the xylem  which is also under applied tension, caused by the down-flow. 

For every action there must be a reaction!  A down-flow must cause a return flow! This is  how trees and plants circulate sap!

Cohesion is the property of liquid molecules bonding together and reaches out beyond the sap in the roots, connecting with soil water molecules, pulling water into the roots. Therefore, the downward flowing sap inevitably causes the less dense sap to rise because sap molecules are linked together through cohesion .  (Think of water  in sap behaving as liquid rubber).

Osmosis, root pressure and capillary action are effectively redundant in  his theory.

Andrew’s Eureka Moments

Tall trees now made sense!  Instead of asking how a one-way flow from roots to leaves operates, which has baffled scientists for hundreds of years, because they asked the wrong question, we now have a robust circulation theory for plants and trees, supported by many experiments with plastic tubes, showing how gravity can raise water to great heights.  

The Birth of Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT)

Almost instantly, Andrew, who thinks laterally, made the connection with gravity for our own circulation systems.  He hypothesised that there must be an imbalance in the density of our blood and other bodily fluids-due to evaporation from our lungs, upper respiratory tract, sinuses, skin and eyes, all of which excrete water to the atmosphere and therefore must concentrate the fluids from which evaporation originates.

He obtained more medical and science text books to see what was already known and, just as he found a wholly inadequate explanation for sap flow in trees, he found inadequate explanations for the origination of human circulation.  Andrew also found that there was little research or understanding into how primary circulation occurs, long before the heart is formed, it beats in a developing embryo. A Pulsate flow is visible in the vessels that develop into the heart. in fact there were contradictions and doubts about all circulations.

Andrew’s Logical Approach Appears to Fit Well with Blood Flow

Andrew’s hypothesis argues that respiration in the lungs must concentrate the blood because of the water lost due to evaporation.  So, the blood exiting the lungs is denser than the blood entering the lungs and therefore must contribute to circulation.

Homo-Erectus (When we Stood Vertical)

Being upright now meant so much more to Andrew, because homo sapiens were obviously benefiting a great deal more than anyone had realised.  Our vertical posture was indeed a very smart move in our evolutionary path.

By standing on our own two feet, we got ahead of other species due to this boost in our circulation.  This argument raises many more interesting questions about how our intelligence surpassed that of primates and many other species. Dean Falk and Professor Michel Cabanac in the radiator theory, http://deanfalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/1990-Falk-Brain-evolution-in-Homo-The-radiator-theory.pdf raised interesting observations. Falk studied  early human skulls and noted that the holes in the back of the skull, which accommodated blood  vessels to and from the brain, had migrated to the top of the skull when we stood upright.

Cabanac discovered that blood flow from the brain reverses against the flow from the heart, when our body temperature is raised through exercise. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02335925?no-access=true 

What this tells us is that our circulation changed permanently in the upright posture.

Andrew deduced that blood density  from higher evaporation, due to exercise, changed the direction of flow and must have played a significant role in the relocation of these vessels over generations, indicating a remapping of vessels may well have contributed to our thinking patterns.

Andrew’s question was obvious:

If gravity was more important than anyone could have imagined, why are we ignoring it by sleeping horizontally in bed? 

The direction of blood flow through the long tubular vessels in our body, which run from head to toe, made Andrew question whether flat bed-rest was efficient in replenishing  and maintaining the human body.

Andrew’s questioning of why we all sleep on flat beds, prompted him to ask friends and family to raise the head end of their beds on bricks, blocks or books to a five-degree angle to see what would happen.  Within four weeks two volunteers reported back significant improvements in varicose veins.

This again meant that the literature needed serious review, because patients who were being advised to put their feet up higher and now placed their feet lower, were responding to what must be the simplest non-invasive method of study available.  A raised bed at the head end position seemed to improve wellbeing.

Andrew’s mother was the first to report being able to move her ankle and wiggle her toes for the first time in over ten years after only four weeks of  IBT.  Later her sensation in the limb became normal.

Following more compelling reports from patients who trialled IBT, there became an inevitable positive change for people with neurological conditions, which were believed to be irreversible.   People with Multiple Sclerosis (MS) were observing substantial improvements.   

The argument against Andrew's results were that MS could relapse and remit, despite there being reports from people with primary progressive MS. This argument was thwarted when he extended his theory and research to patients with complete spinal cord injury, who also reported significant improvements in bowel and bladder control, sensation and movement.

Successes prompted Andrew to research cerebrospinal fluid circulation and the onset and lack of progress in many neurological problems, including Parkinson’s Disease, Cerebral Palsy, Spinal Cord Injury, Sciatica, Fibromyalgia, Migraine Headaches, Strokes, Comatose patient care, restless leg syndrome , broken bone growth and many more conditions, all of which appeared to benefit from IBT. 

An independent report from the Multiple Sclerosis Resource Centre (MSRC), was conducted by John and Jean Simkins, titled: Raised Bed Survey, also published here.  Documented how ten people with MS and two people with spinal cord injury positively progressed using IBT.

Andrew’s battle to alert the medical profession and science communities to his findings, inviting them to challenge his discovery by testing the results, instead of dismissing them out of hand as being anecdotal evidence, has been relentless.
A lesser man would have given up long ago.  But Andrew is driven on to help many more people, with or without ‘academic recognition’ to establish the truth.

History of Beds

Andrew’s research into the history of beds and how we used to sleep took him to rediscover how the Pharaohs and their followers slept inclined in Ancient Egypt.  Those ancient beds are in museums around the world and no one is asking why our ancestors slept inclined.  Andrew also found images of inclined beds in an ancient Constantinople hospital and C sections carried out successfully using an inclined bed, by natives in Africa.  Images of babies swaddled in cots and cribs were also found, indicating a long since forgotten wisdom.

Astronauts and Space Travel

Andrew asked what happens to our physiology when we enter orbit in microgravity. He Found a great deal of evidence from various Space Research Studies, which used prolonged flat bed rest and head down bed rest as a model to replicate the rapid ageing, which according to Joan Vernikos, former head of NASA Life Sciences, is 10 times faster than here on Earth. 

These prolonged bed rest trials revealed  that the same degenerative processes experienced by astronauts were present in healthy young people who were confined to bed and studied for many months.  Astronauts experience heart atrophy, fluid shift, bone decalcification,  osteoporosis, muscular atrophy, skin thinning, psoriasis and other skin conditions, sight degeneration, immune deficiency, kidney stones, liver stones, bladder stones, urine infections, circulatory disorders, vestibular disorders, chronic inflammation,  sleep disorders, accumulation of carbon dioxide, lymphatic disorders and more. On return to Earth, they are unable to walk or even stand upright. 

Studies, Work and Documentation

Andrew had documented and shared his results in mainstream media, including the Daily Mail, Woman’s Realm, BBC World Service, Carlton TV News and many more publications.

At the London International Inventions Fair in 1997 his inclined bed invention won a gold award after he demonstrated a circulation model in tubes that showed clearly how circulation in humans and animals benefit from the direction of gravity.  

He invited visitors, including many scientists, doctors, inventors and the public to lay on his inclined bed to determine the differences between sleeping flat against sleeping at an incline.  Most could determine the differences immediately.

Andrew has documented many of his early fascinating news cuttings, letters (including support and rejections by doctors), and articles from both science journals and charity sites on his website.  These are supported with a compelling bank of evidence, including astonishing testimonials and case histories.

Andrew has continuously campaigned to have clinical studies conducted to test Inclined Bed Therapy results to establish IBT in hospitals to improve patient recovery and survival rates.  The simple modification to a bed can follow the patient home and continue to aid recovery from surgery and prevent many complications, improving patients’ lives and saving overburdened health services a great deal of resources, time and money.

Diabetes Trial Success.

One such study has been conducted into Diabetes, which showed that IBT lowers blood sugar levels and helps with many other diabetes associated symptoms.

INCLINED BED THERAPY: NEW HOPE FOR DIABETES By Erica Billen Pohnpei Island Central School & Tetaake Yee Ting College of Micronesia-FSM Pohnpei, Micronesia

Aspirations

To put an end to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS)
To put an end to SIDS by encouraging parents to place babies on an inclined mattress of no more than 5 degrees.  Andrew met with Dr Chantler, senior medical research advisor to the Foundation for Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, now named the Lullaby Foundation and convinced her that the science was correct.  After hearing Andrew, and seeing his experiments at her home in London, he proved he had solved SIDS!  And yet to – date, no further research has been forthcoming.  

To put an end to Sudden Unexplained Adult Deaths (SADS) Which appears to mirror (SIDS)
Healthy adults are going to bed, never to wake up? It should tell us all something about the dangers of bed rest?

To save patients from losing limbs and in some cases their lives to gangrene, leg ulcers, pressure sores and many other infections, including pneumonia, scarlatina, thrombosis,

To Introduce IBT as normal practice in aiding and speeding up recovery in all hospitals.

To spread the word about IBT in developing countries affected by AIDS and many other debilitating conditions.

Quote

“Reward a child for thinking and not just for remembering and regurgitate someone else’s beliefs.  Then we will see foundations crumble and brick walls fall!”  Andrew K Fletcher

When asked why do you continue?  Andrew will always reply: “Because it is the right thing to do!”.

Bibliography

http://inclinedbedtherapy.com
McKean, DG. GCSE Biology. Hodder Murray, 1989
Daily Mail
Woman’s Realm
BBC World Service
Carlton TV News
London International Inventions Fair, 1997
Operation OASIS
‘those text books…showed direction of blood flow ….’ P3
Cite actual studies?
Thwarted argument re R&R MS
Multiple Sclerosis Resource Centre MSRC John and Jean Simkins: Raised Bed Survey
Nature Journal: Scientific Reports, Corrigendum
Egypt / Africa ref

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24 years ago I made a phenominal discovery in circulation and how gravity acts upon fluid density changes that take place in all fluids where water is evaporated. In trees (Where this theory began) evaporation from the leaves alters the density of sap. In the body, the warm lungs and airways provide the same density changes in the blood and other fluids. It was not long before it became obvious that posture was incredibly more important than anyone could imagine. To make use of these density changes and allow them to assist the circulation all we needed to do was to manage our posture.

This was a Eureka moment of such magnitude it went off the scale for me and instantly gave birth to Inclined Bed Therapy.

Read more: Andrew K Fletcher has 24 years medical research experience with an engineering background

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Transcript of radio Inclined Bed Therapy Interview with Clive De Carl

"Clive" Hello it's Clive De Carle here with another episode of Solutions Revolution, Thank you all very much for joining us and today I am very happy to invite Andrew K Fletcher on to the show and Andrew is an expert in Inclined Bed Therapy http://inclinedbedtherapy.com

Now if you haven't heard of this it really is rather a magic thing

I came across it something like 15 years ago and I love it, I really really like it.

But other people are experiencing huge benefits from a health perspective so welcome Andrew

Thank's for that Clive, It's not magic it's science and hopefully I can explain it in a way that it makes sense to everyone.

Excellent Thank you. So you discovered this about 20 years ago I think?

Yes it was rather an incredible journey

For example: Who Told Humans That We Should Sleep On A Flat Bed?

Yeah good point. So when every I go camping I am always drawn to a very slight incline so that my head is higher and I have heard you say that animals generally sleep on an incline?

Yes if you look around the fields, if there is a hill side you will see cattle and sheep and they will all be facing up hill if they are lying down. Sheep seem to know a great deal about sleeping and a great deal more than we do. If you look at chimpanzees in the wild or in the zoo as well. In the wild they will be up in nests and the branches are not flat and they tend to sleep with their heads up and gorillas will sleep resting up against a tree. The evidence is all there you just have to learn to look around

And of course a lot of people used to sleep in chairs, didn't they, in the old days, quite often as I understand it.

I also understand that people used to have two sleeps a night quite often.

So tell us some more about the inclined bed therapy and what it actually is first of all so people know what we are talking about.

Yeah well it is first of all simply raising the head end of the bed up six inches or 15 cms, if you are metrically "Inclined" and you raise the bed at the head end causing the whole bed to slope down from head to toe.

A lot of people make the mistake and say I have tried Inclined Bed Therapy and it hasn't worked for me and then when you dig around a little bit and ask a few questions they tend to tell you that they raised the upper half of the bed and have their legs raised or flat, or have one of these new fangled electric beds and some people have their knees up in the air on these electric machines, so they have not actually tried the inclined bed.

Now if you are sleeping with the bed folded in the middle IE an electric bed, what you are doing is you are compressing the spine.

If you are on an angled bed then you are doing the exact opposite, you are decompressing the spine, but you are doing a great deal more as well.

Because I had worked out how gravity was driving the circulation in the body. A tall claim I know but if you listen up you will learn what I learned.

If the literature states that gravity doesn't play a role in circulation because it acts equally on the blood flowing down as it does on the blood flowing up, same with the lymphatic system, same with cerebrospinal fluid. But what they have failed to take into account is that for every breath we take we evaporate water from the lungs and that water is donated by the blood that flows through the lungs, so as the blood flows through the lungs it becomes denser on exiting, so that denser blood then passes through the heart and enters the main artery, so it's a bit like placing a pinch of salt at the top of the blood tree. And then gravity if we are the right way around according to gravity, I.E. head up and feet down, standing, sitting correctly, gravity will pull on those density changes and drag on the blood causing it to be pulled down which gives the heart a bit of a boost. And it pulls the salts and the minerals through the kidneys a little bit more efficiently and then the blood that passes through the renal system is less dense having got rid of the salts that we excrete in the urine so the blood flowing up will always be more dilute than the blood flowing down. It's very simple really.

And the same applies to the lymphatic system and the same applies to the cerebrospinal fluid, in fact there is a paper just been published by Leszek Herbowski and he attributes, well he has done some temperature checks on the cerebrospinal fluid and he has written a paper Thermodynamic Approach to Cerebrospinal Fluid Circulation saying that the cerebrospinal fluid that flows down is always denser than the cerebrospinal fluid that returns back up.

Right very interesting and so this is going to presumably give your heart a rest, my Step mother for instance died in her sleep of a heart attack, had she have had an inclined bed would she have stood a better chance do you think?

Well, I am just looking at my notes here and one of the things I have to mention is that the medical profession actually know how harmful and how dangerous a flat bed is. In fact all of the literature states that it's the last thing on Earth that you want to do is spend time in bed.

Around 3.30 in the morning the body temperature dips by 2 degrees, that is the time that most people will pass away in their sleep. Now when we, my wife and I tested our mouth temperature in exactly the same manner that the graph was compiled of in the literature, there was no 2 degree drop in our temperature, our temperature staid level, well you have peaks and troughs but it didn't drop off the 2 degrees that the flat bed produced.

How very interesting, so would you get long term benefits to your heart, presumably you must do?

Yes, again the heart rate was really important during the initial research, so I had two reliable volunteers, the two bull terriers, fast asleep, they were lying horizontal and I measured their heart rates and then I got them to sleep, well it's not difficult getting the bull terrier to sleep, so I measured their heart rates while they were on an angle and their heart rate and their respiration rate decreased. The heart rate decreased by 10 - 12 beats per minute and respiration rates decreased by 4-5 breaths per minute

So the next thing step was to see if the same applied to humans. I measured my sons while they were asleep and I measured my wife's while she was asleep and then she did the same for me. And we found and this is really interesting because our heart rate and our respiration rate decreased by exactly the same rate that the bull terriers had shown.

How interesting, so that should relate in the end to longer life shouldn't if you are not.

I would presume so but there is no claim for immortality with IBT because there is one thing for sure we will all die.

It appears that way Yeah.

Yeah

It's been a fascinating adventure, another spin off which is pertinent to today's problems with the ebola virus, is that a great number of people have reported that they don't seem to get the infections that other people are getting i.e flu, coughs and colds and if they do get them, they get over them within a very short space of time, when people around them are dropping like flies. And one important report came last year which was from our Granddaughter at nursery. The whole classroom had gone down with chicken pox, except she didn't.

Have you any explanations to why that may be?

Yes I have, for a virus to infect a cell, it usually infects through the fluids, it would require the fluids to stagnate or slow down in order for it to penetrate the cells. And I believe that if we keep that circulation running at it's optimum level then we can skip a lot of the infections. But also the metabolic rate appears to have increased on the inclined bed because people with cold feet and poor circulation, and cold hands, suddenly find they have got nice toasty warm hands and feet, now viruses don't like increases in body temperature, in fact that's our defence. Our body temperature goes up we get a fever and we manage to kill the virus or defeat the virus.

I have know for some time that if, well if you think about the statement early with the flat beds that can cause multiple organ failure, neurological damage, cause the bones to de-calcify, and this is well known by the medical profession, but there is no research being done on what an inclined bed could do for these same people. And I believe that if the ebola patients were not put on these flat beds, I reckon they would fare a damned site better than they are doing now.

Well that's very interesting, wonder if it is having an effect on the thyroid, because usually if the thyroid is low, people end up with cold hands and feet. That's one of the symptoms of a low thyroid, possibly because they have low iodine?

Possibly because they have got low circulation as well.

Yes, and what other sorts of benefits have you seen?

How many hours do we have?

Two,

Two hours

I don't know where to start really, I did a great deal of research with people with multiple sclerosis

Really?

Had some phenomenal results with ms,

I had an original pilot study, where by we had a small group of people with ms, Roger Kirk was the first guy to try the sloping bed and Roger was in a very bad way, he couldn't walk. Roger's improvements were incredible, he came with me to a local chapter in Kingskerswell of the MS Society, And we got a group of people interested. Most people in the hall didn't receive the information that we were talking about and carried on business as usual talking to each other and I could tell that it wasn't striking any chords with them, but a small group of people did,

And that small group of people suddenly started to improve, incredible results.

Two ladies, one lady in Teignmouth and One lady In Paignton, both their ophthalmologists wrote to me asking me how could placing two blocks of wood under someone's bed restore someone's eyesight that was blind?

Wow

Yeah, I had people walking that couldn't walk, sensitivity came back, bowel and bladder control came back where it was lost, but in that same pilot study, because I had learned by now that the medical profession were a bit defensive and would go to extreme lengths to protect the status quo.

I realised and it had been said that multiple sclerosis could fluctuate anyway, i.e you can get relapsing and remitting ms, so they could be having good days or bad days, in fact quite a few of the people on that study were progressive ms, which didn't fluctuate, but nevertheless I included to patients with spinal cord injury. Now it had been said that if one person with a complete spinal cord injury regained sensitivity and regained function, then that would be a major breakthrough and it would be accepted,

Well the first two people with spinal cord injury made incredible progress, they both got bowel and bladder control back, one gentleman who is tetraplegic developed the ability to write and could write his own name, his own address. When I met the guy his hands were locked up in two fists, so he couldn't move his hands at all, he couldn't feel anything from the armpits down and his kids used to dive all over him and being a former boxer, the guy was, it was very frustrating, he couldn't defend himself and laughed it off most of the time. But all of a sudden he was able to make crazy progress, so sensitivity returned below the level of the injury, sensitivity returned to his hands and to his feet, it was just incredible.

And the other guy, John, who has passed away now, he died from lung cancer, but his spine according to Tromans and Grundy at Salisbury was smashed to smitheries, he had fallen from a two story building and literally shattered his spine. And he was told that he would never be able to fend for himself, he would always be dependent on others and low and behold he got a great deal of function back.

His bladder for instance, he told me the one day that he uses a bladder wash to flush out his urine and he noticed that he was able to push the urine back up into the bladder bag, so he regained the ability to control his urine but it's not just those two guys, there have been more people with spinal cord injury that I have helped and they have also reported very similar improvements.

Now back to ms, I tried to work out why these people with ms were having significant results and I did a great deal of research into ms and we have all heard about the myelin sheath, but not a lot of people have heard that myelin behaves exactly like liquid crystal in an lcd screen. Providing it is in it's liquid state it functions, now we have talked about circulation and if you can compromise circulation, i.e, cause those fluids to slow down or stagnate, then that circulation is compromised and those crystals will no longer be liquid and become solid, and when they become solid, they become visible under an mri scan. So I suspect that the circulation increasing would eventually re-establish the liquidity of this myelin.

Are you there?

Yes, well that's amazing and I believe also that people who are having to urinate at night you know just because they are getting old, actually it's usually a nutrient deficiency, but they are also getting positive results?

Yes that was another report that came in many times, nocturia I think they call it. And infant bed wetting as well.

I have explained that the two degree temperature drop and if we feel cold we need to urinate but if we are not cold then we don't need to urinate and also because we have increased the metabolic rate, evaporation is taking place more effectively from our lungs and from our skin and if we are evaporating more water away then there is less urine being produced. One caveat to that is that if someone has oedema, ie they have swollen legs and swollen hands and swollen feet, the medical profession will recommend raising the legs.

Now that's great because that shifts the fluid from the swollen limbs back into the trunk, but it doesn't actually push it back into the circulation, but the sloping bed does the opposite, if we raise the head end of the bed and lower the legs, then what we have seen time and time again is that that excess fluid in the body is drawn back into the circulation through the venous return, whipped around the circulation and flushed out by the bladder.

So initially if someone has a great deal of fluid, they will probably experience none-stop urination for quite some time.

How long would quite some time be?

Well it can go on for 3 or 4 days. There's a guy over in Torquay, when I met the guy he was severely swollen, the chap had Parkinson's disease and when I met him his limbs were like giant water balloons. He couldn't walk, the couple were struggling to try to get him to the bathroom and back to his seat. Getting him up stairs was a nightmare and we tilted the bed and then over the course of a few days his clothes literally fell on the floor, he had lost that much fluid.

His wife was ringing up frantic the one day saying that I don't know how to stop my husband from urinating, and yet all of the time the fluid was being drawn back into the circulation.

And this was backed up by a guy called Peter Lewis a vascular surgeon, because he did exactly the same, he had head about what had happened to this guy. I had met Lewis at his home along with another vascular surgeon called Celeste from Trinidad and I explained all about the mechanics, how the body works and how the circulation fitted with the new theory and he was fascinated, then he put me to the test, because he had a lady with a severely swollen body and ascites, which is the abdominal cavity fills with fluid because of liver problems. And he went back to the hospital because he had tried diuretics and nothing had worked and when he came back he said he couldn't believe the changes in the lady. He said it was incredible and that he had never seen anything like it.

Well it's good to hear that doctors are listening.

Yeah, there is a great deal of Doctors now standing up and actually doing something with this. It has been published in a few doctors books as well.

Well that's good, the worst case of swollen limbs that I have seen is lymph oedema.

Yes

It would clear lymph oedema would it?

I would imagine that it would, I have not come across a case of lymph-oedema yet. Elephant tiasis is another good example of that and I often thought that these people that have got these huge problems with their legs would...

Actually, My Father was taken ill in hospital, he has passed away now he had pancreatic cancer.

While he was in hospital on the flat bed his legs were swelling up to the point where his pyjamas had to be cut. I tried to lift one of his legs up and I couldn't lift his leg up.

Wow,

His kidneys had packed up, his liver had packed up and we were told that it was a matter of hours before you know, my Father would pass away and he was in a coma and I fought tooth and nail with the doctors and the nurses at Russells Hall Hospital and I was very stubborn and insisted that his bed was put on an angle and every time I turned my back they had put the bed back down.

I got really angry with these people but anyway, we tilted his bed and within hours his circulation had increased that much that the bloody urine that he was producing the tar urine ran clear and yellow, so his kidneys had began functioning again and over the course of a few days the yellowness was going from his skin and his eyes, so his liver was functioning again and he come out of his coma as well.

And then he came home and had an extra 8 months of life.

Wow, amazing.

Yeah

Absolutely amazing.

That's my own Father, unfortunately, you know, they did put a stent in after they told me that there was nothing that could be done for my dad. And I said I am going home to research this and as soon as I got through the door, now that's a 200 mile journey, the phone rang and it was the doctor who said we are putting a stent in for your dad. So there was a surgical procedure that could have been done and yet they were trying to avoid it and deny it.

Stent's unfortunately are very seldom as effective as they say.

Yes Yes

So the oedema, how does that work with the oedema? Now if we have got oedema in the limbs, that's because the pressure in the venous return is greater than the pressure in the surrounding tissue.

So because of the semi-permiability of the veins, the fluid is being pushed by the pressure into the surrounding tissue. Now when we tilt the bed as I have said previously, we change the density of the blood which then in the arteries, which pass through the lungs, that arterial blood is then influenced by gravity and pulled upon and that applies tension to to every molecule in that blood and that tension stretches back to the venous return all the way back through the kidneys and back to its self. So affecting one molecule will have a chain effect on every molecule of blood in the body.

Now if we are applying a downward pressure by gravity to the arterial blood, which is dragging on the density changes, we are applying tension to the venous return and if we apply tension to the venous return, the blood starts to pull the walls in. Now the first evidence for this happened very quickly. Within 4 weeks of tilting our bed, my wife's varicose vein went flat and so did a nurses called Stephanie Ness.

Her varicose vein went flat as well.

And that proved to me that we had nailed something very very important.

And if we apply tension we are also increasing the positive pressure because of gravity in the arterial side, so we are increasing the arterial pressure.

But for every action there must be a reaction, we a re decreasing the venous return pressure. We are in fact lowering the pressure lower than the surrounding tissue. So the excess fluids migrate from the surrounding tissues back into the veins, around the circulation through the kidneys, where they are filtered and the spent salts are excreted in the urine. And if you stand there at the toilet and decant your urine, your hot urine down the pan, you will see that it sinks straight to the bottom of the toilet.

Now you would think that because it is warmer it would float on the surface, but it contains a great deal of minerals and salts so it is heavier and it sinks.

And have you had any people with end stage kidney failure get their kidney function back.

Not been tested for dialysis, although I have tried and tried with a friend in fact I have a bit of a problem with my own kidneys, I have a polycistic kidney.

Polycystic, generally has a relationship with low iodine

I am taking Lugols Iodine

How many drops are you taking?

2 in the morning 2 in the evening.

And it's what I have made myself, it's a proper 10%, it's not the 10% that people are trading.

You think people are trading 10% Lugols that isn't?

Yes

That's interesting, have they just got the formula wrong or deliberate do you think?

No I think it's they have got the formula wrong.

I found a recipe from a guy called Israel on the net, and of course I had a quick play around with the maths to see if he had done it right and yeah it made a great deal of sense what he was saying so I made my own.

Fair enough

Well at least I know what is in it.

Yes yes quite.

I think iodine is one of the most important elements out there, particularly Lugol's with potassium iodide added to the elemental iodine and all the Fukushima radiation coming out, absolutely essential that we have enough iodine to stop the radiation getting into the iodine receptors.

People don't seem to understand that radiation is not nearly as worrying if you have full nutrition. People don't realise that we have the receptors but if the receptors are full the radioactive iodine will just float on past.

Yeah it's a bit like the natural progesterone. I have first hand experience with this and have seen uterine fibroids shrivel up and virtually vanish. And it's the same principle because the receptors from the progesterone are the same that the oestrogen uses to make the benign tumours grow, so we gave it a whirl and yeah it works.

Well people are being barraged by oestrogen at the moment, mainly I think in bread products, I don't know whether you have looked at the labels on packeted breads in the supermarket? Every single packet of bread is only partly wheat. Most of them are about 40 to 45 % soya.

Wow I didn't know that.

Yeah I know, I went into the supermarkets to do some filming, they chucked me out but every loaf of bread, the whole lot have been cut with soya so you know because Hovis used to say whole-wheat but it doesn't any more it says wholemeal.

That's really interesting, thanks for that.

Then because soya is so cheap they feed it to chickens so the chickens and the eggs are absolutely laced with omega 6. So a chicken that has been fed soya will have about 20 times more omega 6 than would be safe, that would be normal.

So when they use that phrase, eggs is eggs, these days eggs aren't eggs they are quite dangerous.

We used to see cow's in the fields but we don't see those so often now, we put them in factories and the poor cows are being fed soya, never seeing the sun, never knowing what grass looks like and we are being fed this rubbish.

And as a result, people are being hugely poisoned.

And the people that are eating soya products like burgers and so on are in real trouble. And worse still are the babies that are being fed on soya formula, I think it's about 28 years ago or something that soya formula first came on the market for babies who were allergic to cows milk and now the children 25 to 26 years old at the oldest and they all have one big problem which is great difficulty in reproducing because their hormonal cycle has been damaged by the oestrogen and then further damaged by all the chlorine and the bromine and possibly fluoride that they are getting as well.

Most peoples hormones are being made of the wrong material these days, which explains the thyroid epidemic that is rampant out there.

The sad thing is that in the old days before levothyroxine, Doctors used to give dried desiccated animal thyroid, maybe one grain or two grains a very small amount and that had all the balanced of t4 t3 t2 and so on, but now with levothyroxin which has just got t4 and although it helps peoples symptoms, it means they are on it for life and they are going to have a shorter life and have a lot of problems.

I try to encourage people to research lugols if they have a thyroid problem and to consider the natural alternatives, unfortunately the GP isn't allowed to legally prescribe natural thyroid like their predecessors used to but they have no choice but to give a drug and it is very very sad really, they could be a lot healthier, the biggest problem is the lack of iodine.

I don't really know, but over in Japan, whereas in England 90% of menopausal woman report hot flushes and the usual menopausal symptoms, whereas in Japan only 10% of women experience those symptoms of hot flushes and Japanese woman only get about a tenth of the cancer rate of English woman for example.

And it's been tied down now to the fact they are eating so much seaweed and so much fish that they are getting the equivalent of two drops of lugols a day.

So have you noticed any differences after taking iodine? Clearer thinking maybe?

The sloping bed is er, I know what you are saying about the lugols but no I haven't noticed any difference with clearer thinking, but I am pretty sure my Granddaughter is absolutely incredible, she has been on the sloping bed from conception, right through to five years of age and she is incredible, she is absolutely incredible and she has been for many years. My new Granddaughter she is on a sloping bed again and I insist on this actually because I am pretty damned sure that putting a baby on a flat bed will cause Sudden Infant Death Syndrome SIDS and I am absolutely certain that it's doing something for our mental capacity, for example a recent report that came through today a lady who wrote that I thought my life was over, she said I was suicideing on ice cream and I tilted the bed in 2009 and she said that it took me a long time to tilt the bed and I got around to doing it and it was like a lightbulb had switched on she lost a hundred pounds in weight.

Wow that's amazing is that common to lose weight?

What we found in the early days was really interesting with myself and a good friend of mine named Billy. We both titled the beds and I talked him into tilting his bed and this was in the early days and we both noticed that our weight went up.

Went up?

Yeah

and the interesting thing is our clothes became loose.

So you were gaining muscle in that case?

Well and bone density, so your bone density goes up and your muscle density goes up but we were definitely burning the fat.

How interesting

Hmmm

And with brain function are you noticing that people with dementia or with Alzheimer's getting any improvements?

Well with short term memory loss one of the ladies, well it was actually it was the lady who recovered her eyesight, in Teignmouth with multiple sclerosis, she said, I don't know whether this has anything to do with the sloping bed she said, but when I walk to the door to do something, by the time I got to the door, I would have forgotten what it was and I would spend as long as I liked and I wouldn't be able to remember what it was that I went to the door for. She said and now, and this was only after a month or so, I walk to the door, she said and I'll forget just the same as anyone else would do and she said; and I pause, and then I can remember what it is I wanted to do., so her short term memory function had improved. And I think that demands a study in itself.

Well absolutely, funny enough when I am trying to assess whether people are low on iodine, I ask them do you remember where you put your car keys? Do you remember why you walked into a room? and obviously you know that's a common thing. I found that most people after 3 months of iodine, they now remember where they put their car keys and why they walked in the room so maybe, the two combined we will have a super memory keeper.

So what about dementia and Altzheimer's

Not getting any reports, it's not something I have focused on, again, what I am trying to do is focus on things that you will get reports back from.

If I help someone with dementia or someone with a memory problem, what's the chances of them reporting back to me? Because this is a huge problem with people working outside of the medical profession because people don't adhere to the protocols that we set out. In fact the medical profession have the same problem.

What about the length of time that you sleep, do you find that you get a more restful nights sleep and don't sleep so long or any changes like that?

I do tend to wake up in the night and get up and walk around and get back into bed. But I am doing that purposefully because I have realised the importance of being active and moving around rather than a sedentary lifestyle. It's very important.

But just one thing on the Intelligence side, which I think you will find interesting.

The circulation changed when we stood up. Are you religous or...

No

Ok

So when we were walking around on all fours, the circulation foramina were in the back of the head. These are the holes in the skull that carry the vessels to and from the scalp to and from the brain and when we stood up according to Dean Falk, she is a scientist over in America who has a theory called the Radiator Theory, which I disagree with.

When we stood up Dean Falk measured where the foramina, took notice of where the formaina where on the skulls that had changed like on homo-erectus and those foramini had migrated to the top of the skull, so the circulation through the brain had completely changed when we stood up.

Now another great scientist Michel Cabanac, Professor Michel Cabanac. He did some experiments with a guy on an exercise cycle and he placed a Doppler probe where the eye meets the nose.

He got the guy to work out and it showed normal blood flow from the brain out to the skin.

But when the guy becomes overheated on the cycle, the blood flow actually changes direction. It's now flowing from the skin back through the brain.

There are no valves in those vessels, so something has changed the circulation. Now Falk says the brain decides where it wants to send the circulation.

I am saying that because of the evaporative heat loss caused by the exercise, changed the density of the fluids in the blood and the cerebrospinal fluid and it was actually changed sufficiently enough for it to flow back against the pressure of the heart.

Right

So circulation improves brain function. So if we have the bed on an angle, we are again improving circulation.

See, what I am trying to convey to anyone that is willing to listen is we have an assumption that bed's should be flat.

Now if we go back to history, there is a brilliant drawing with a hospital in Constantinople in the 13th century and it shows rows of Inclined Beds. It is perfectly obvious that the artist hasn't got mistaken. They are inclined, because the nurse standing next to the bed, you can actually see that it is up level almost level with her shoulders at the head end. At the foot end you can see that the legs are definitely shorter.

So Constantinople at that time were renowned for being very successful medical people.

Which is really interesting.

But if we go back further still, the ancient Egyptians, 5 thousand years ago, when we pulled out the beds from the Egyptian Tombs, they were all raised at the head end. They were all higher than the foot end. Even Tutankhamen's camping bed, he had a fold up camping bed and that was built on an incline.

No one bothered to question why these beds were inclined? I guess they all had diamonds and gold and jewels in their hands and very little in their brains.

Right

Talk to me a little bit more about eyesight and how common might it be to repair a macular.

I have a friend over in Brixham and he has diabetes and he had bleeding from the back of the eyes and he was told that he needed surgery and the guy is 82, he was told that he needed laser surgery, and that it might not be successful and that eyes were worsening and his eyes healed up all by themselves.

And during a holiday he went away for a holiday and then slept flat the eyes started to bleed again from the back of his eyes.

And since he has been back on an inclined bed they have stopped bleeding again.

But interestingly enough, while he has been on the sloping bed, his sugar levels have been dropping as well. And this was confirmed in, well it's the first study, I am really really grateful to a guy called Tetaaki Yee Ting and he is from an Island called Pohnpei, in Micronesia, which is just North East of Australia and they have a tremendous problem with obesity in this place, due to the introduction of the American diet and possibly soya that you mentioned. Well, it's a pandemic on the island, but he got 11 patients to tilt their beds. Right across the board the sugar levels dropped. Now just by tilting the bed, they didn't make any dietary changes. But two of them, he noticed that their sugar levels had gone up at one point and he investigated why they should go in the opposite direction and they both admitted that they hadn't been on the sloping bed and one had been binging out at a wedding for 2 days and the other had been binging out at a funeral for 2 days and apparently when they went back to the inclined bed, their sugar levels come down as well.

So increasing the functionality of the pancreas?

Yes

And have you heard of anybody getting completely over their diabetes?

Well again this guy in Brixham his insulin, he takes insulin and he has noticed, well both of them have noticed that the insulin injection levels have dropped from 26 twice a day of the slow and a dose of the fast. He has skipped the fast insulin and skipped the one dose of the slow and I think he is on about 15 or 16 units now.

So that's a massive improvement from just tilting the bed. But of course diet plays a roll as we know with diabetes.

Well very much so. I am type one diabetic, myself and it's.

Have you noticed any change?

No not really.

No I don't think so.

Just to clarify to people, I understand that the six inch measurement is to be adhered to, five inches or seven inches does not work as good?

No, it all depends on the length of the bed, if you have got a King-sized bed you will probably have to raise your bed you will probably have to raise the bed 7 or 7 and a half inches.

Oh I see

Because whatever the length of the bed is, if you have got a cot to prevent sudden infant death syndrome, they you will probably need to raise that cot about 3 or 4 inches at the head end.

So it all depends on the length of the bed really.

I have a friend who she sleeps on what could be the North face of the eiger.

I just shake ny head when I see her bed. But she is 72 years young and back in 1995 she was ready for a wheelchair and she has a condition called psoriatic arthritis, which eats into her finger nails and toe nails and psoriasis all over her body and in her hair and she was racked with pain, she would get up every morning and she would immerse her hands in hot water just to get the hands working. And it would take about an hour and a half to get her hands working. Then she would bite the bullet and do what she could and then she heard me talking to this guy with who was staying with her at the time, this guy with the spinal cord injury and this lady was a nurse. So she stood and listened and she said who have you got coming down here now, somebody talking another load of old bull? But she sat there and she listened and you could see that the penny had dropped.

And she tilted her own bed, she didn't say anything to anybody, but she got up the next morning and no paralysis in her hands and it hasn't come back. And she has got virtually no psoriasis on her body now. Occasionally she will get a little rosette on the base of her spine and that's it.

Wow that's amazing and why do you think that the psoriasis went away, what do you think the mechanism going on there is?

Psoriasis skin contains a great deal more sodium and potassium than normal healthy skin, so the sloping bed could have actually helped those minerals to migrate away from the skin surface. You know, like when you put the lugols on the skin and it vanishes, the same could be happening with the mineral salts which are probably causing the skin to dessicate.

Going back to the Lugol's iodine, how long have you been doing four drops because four drops is quite a lot?

Five days

Oh that's fine

Are you taking selenium as well?

Not at the moment. I am reluctant to eat Brazil nuts because I a bit worried about them being irradiated.

Yes, who knows what they are doing radiation wise, I don't know? There are a number of ways to get selenium in supplement form. Those made from yeast which is the type I sell on my website.

Yes

Because when you take iodine it depletes your selenium level, it is a really good idea to take selenium at the same time.

You do get selenium from meat and eggs.

Well yes indeed but even so, really I try to recommend supplementing with anything if they can afford it is to take the whole set of 90 odd nutrients at once because there are so many people low on just one mineral and many people are low on selenium because it just isn't there in the soils like it used to be.

There would be a huge reduction in prostate issues if we all had a good mineral balance with selenium and zinc for example.

Tell me more of the results that you are getting, it really is an amazing isn't it, just such a simple thing can have such a dramatic affect it is incredible, I can't think of anything else that doesn't cost any money, it's free!

That's the problem. because it's free people think it's worthless but what a mistake that is.

Well clearly, so tell me about some of the other wonderful things you have seen.

Well this guy that I mentioned with Parkinson's. Now Parkinson's is really interesting because in the early stages, the person affected by the Parkinson's can wake up paralysed in the morning so they get morning paralysis,

What happens is the partner usually drags them up the bed and sits them up a little bit and they come around a little bit more, then they swing their legs out over the bed and get them sitting up and they come around a little bit more. Then they get them to stand and they come around a little bit more, then they get them to shuffle around and their gait improves and they start walking around and by the end of the day they are walking around like you and I.

And then they go back to their flat beds and screw it all up again.

How interesting.

Yes

Night time paralysis that has been reduced, when people wake up and their body is in a catatonic state.

My wife suffers with it but furtunately since the bed has been on an angle she very rarely gets a problem with this.

Now it was happening 4 or 5 sometimes 6 times in a night and she could be getting it every day and it has made such a huge difference just preventing that.

What else? I really don't know where to start.

Let me just ask you on ms and Parkinson's have you seen any body get anywhere close to completely reversing it?

Well, I am glad you brought me back to that because I tend to drift off because it's quite a complicated subject.

Back to the guy with Parkinson's who we tilted his bed.

Apart from all the fluid that the guy had lost, I get a phone call saying that I turned over in bed and looked at my husbands face and that Parkinson's mask which she had grown to recognise every night that she went to bed wasn't there, his face was relaxed and it looked like her own husband had come back. So she shook him and she said that she had had the first conversation with her husband in years, it was incredible.

And then a few more weeks went passed and his walking was improving all of the time, I was getting reports back all of the time and they couldn't believe the changes. His attention span when I met the guy was about 1 minute at best and then he would go into sleep, then he would come back out of his sleep and we would have a little talk and try and get something through to him and he would be gone again and it was heart breaking to see the couple struggling and a few more weeks went passed and I went around there and knocked on the door, Because I was hearing all of these incredible stories and when I opened the door who should meet me was this guy called Brian and it was the same guy that was like a giant water balloon when I met him with an attention span of a minute.

To a normal looking guy who could walk normally with normal gait and he said, well he thanked me on the step and that turned my legs to jelly and he said do you want to talk to xxxxxxxxx Hang on a minute I will go and get her. I watched the guy walk up the stairs shouted his misses, turned around and then walked back down.

And we went in and had an amazing conversation and then a couple of weeks later, I get another call saying that she is concerned and this happened very quickly, I know it sounds ridiculous but it happened very very quickly,. He had already been taking himself down to see his granddaughters playing at school in the sports and he would bring himself back no problem at all.

And another week or two went passed and she said I had seen him go out and look at the car and lift the bonnet and she didn't think anything of it. I shouldn't really say anything because I could get them in trouble but he had drove off in the car and come back.

Wow that's amazing, you must be feeling pretty good about yourself I think?

Well the icing on the cake and I will tell you exactly as it happened.

I get a phone call. Somebody asked me about the bull terrier; what would a male bull terrier be like around a severely disabled child?

I said, what's the matter with your kid?

She said; why do you want to know?

I said, I might be able to help.

She said don't be bloody ridiculous she said I rang for information about a puppy you know to see what a bull terrier would be like around a severely disabled child.

I said, well look I can't make you listen

She said spit it out then

And I told her and she said, I have been half way around the world nothing can be done for my daughter.

I said look I can't make you listen

Anyway she starts crying because the penny has dropped having explained everything in great detail.

Her husband then comes on the phone and he gives me a right rollocking down the phone, saying you have upset my misses what have you said to my misses? And she said no listen to what he has to say so I have to explain it all over again, but anyway to cut a long story short, they tilted the girls bed.

Now she is 12 years of age and she hasn't walked to the age of 12, she wears callipers day times and night times to keep the legs straight, different set of callipers for on the night-time. Anybody that has a child with cerebral palsy will know what I am taking about. She had severe scoliosis of the spine and the prognosis in 1995 was if she ever developed the ability to come or brush her own hair let us know but don't hold your breath because it will never happen.

That's what the parents were told and they had gone half way around the world looking for help for this girl and I started to get some reports back.

Yes she is doing really well, things are changing but we are not really sure what is changing and a few more weeks would go past and then I would get another report and occasionally I'd ring up and ask how she's doing?

And she said oh she seems to be stronger, but we could be imagining this you know.

I mean the girl is very clever very articulate and then a few more weeks go past and yeah she is definitely getting stronger and she has turned over in bed and she couldn't do that before and later she was turning over all of the time.

And she is managing to pull herself up the bed and it was incredible as this was unfolding it was absolutely incredible and a few more weeks go past; yes she is making so much progress that the muscles in the legs are looking too masculine. Now this is a girl that hadn't got muscles because she hadn't walked. Well the muscles were there but they hadn't been exercised.

And they said that the muscles were looking far too masculine so we have put the bed back down?

Immediately they had put the bed back down she started to revert back, so they put the bed back up.

And then it went on for quite a few months and the icing on the cake came at 8 months when got a frantic call from the mum, she said we are off to the school, I said whatever has happened, She said we have just had a call saying that our girl had got out of the wheelchair at school, walked at school and managed to to walk up some steps.

12 years of age.

Now it get's even better, because some time had passed and there were more improvements, she clothed herself, and I believe is functioning like any healthy person now.

I got a call straight out of the blue, and picked up the phone and I heard this child say hello is that Andrew? I said yes. She said I am the little girl that you have been helping with cerebral palsy and I am just ringing to say thank you for all that you have done for me.

My legs went to jelly and I collapsed on the floor. I could not stand up.

How amazing.

And so cerebral palsy it just doesn't get much worse than that does it?

Irreversible brain damage, but I like these irreversible conditions because they appear to be reversible.

Well I found that out myself 28 years ago, I had arthritis so badly that I couldn't move or put my shoes and socks on and they said that it was irreversible and they were completely wrong.

Yes

I was low on vitamins and minerals. I reversed the whole thing and never had a problem since.

And just shortly after that my dad's best friend got cancer and he was told that he had six weeks to live and he managed to phone up Linus Pauling, who he had found in the phone book and said what do I do? and Linus Pauling said build up slowly but as fast as you can to 25 grams of vitamin C per day and he lived another 25 years.

Wow

And when he did die it wasn't of cancer. So I saw first hand with this.

I just heard an interesting story where a lady that tried the cannabis oil for a brain tumour and the brain tumour has vanished.

Well it's one of the best successful remedies out there.

You can't verify that yourself because I haven't been privy to the mri scans or anything but no reason to doubt what I was told..

This is my dog drinking in the background, sorry.

One of the things that people don't understand is that you don't need an mri scan or an X-ray or anything like that to tell whether your cancer is getting better or getting worse, there are several blood tests that can be done very cheaply, harmlessly, which are probably a lot more accurate because people don't realise that some of these scans, particularly a cat scan, which can be 500 -600 times more powerful than a chest x-ray for example. People don't realise the damage that they are doing by the testing.

Yes

When a perfectly good, very inexpensive natural ways to do it.

Yes

Another thing that people don't realise is that you can have a chemotherapy test so that what happens is that if somebody gets cancer they just put them on chemotherapy but they could for a little bit more money test the cells of their body against all these different agents, chemotherapy agents, same as with fillings of teeth a dentist who knows what he is doing can test the filling material to see whether it is compatible with you.

So there are loads of people who are having very bad reactions from chemo for example That if they had done a simple test, they could have avoided that. Personally I think it is absolutely criminal what is going on in the medical profession.

I agree I agree

And it is not that most doctors are anything other than lovely people but the method of teaching them a drugs only way of testing and a radiation only way and a surgery only way.

You know you go to the doctor and you have got these three choices and it is just ridiculous. I realised some time ago that people go to the doctor believing that a doctor is a health expert, after all it is called a National Health Service, but they don't study health, you know health isn't on the curriculum, they study disease, they study drugs, but at no point do doctors look at healthy people to examine why they are healthy, it is incredible.

It is a sickness industry yeah

Yeah very much so.

So do you think, I am asking a silly question in a way but do you think there is any chance that doctors in general the NHS in general would ever accept Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT)

It's practised for respiratory problems, but again they tend to elevate the upper half of the bed and not tilt the whole bed. And again this guy with diabetes was in a hospital ward having broken his femur and I was invited over there to tilt the bed and to talk to the doctors and nurses. I talked to the doctors and nurses but I could not tilt that bed. It just had not got the capability of being tilted correctly.

And they said that it was one of the most modern beds that there is.

There are beds out there that will do it and one of the interesting things that they use the full titling bed for is when someone comes out of surgery under anaesthetic because they tilt them head down and feet up.

I have actually been in the recovery room while my son was coming out of anaesthetic and I asked them why he was head down and feet up?

They said well it is in case he is sick, so that the vomit will clear the airways.

I said well have you thought that you might be making him sick by tilting him upside down?

The look of bewilderment on her face.

I said well, I'll tell you what, if you tilt his bed his oxygen sats will go up, his heart rate will decreases by by 10 -12 beats per minute, his respiration rate will decrease by 4-5 breaths per minute and within a few minutes or possibly less he will come out of his induced anaesthesia. She said well it will take about 20 minutes for him to come out and as soon as she tilted his bed, the monitors went exactly as I had predicted they would go and he put his thumb up and said I am ok Dad.

He got up and he wasn't sick.

Fantastic

And the nurse came back the ward where my son was being kept and my wife was at the ward and she kept saying that it is incredible what I have just witnessed, she said this alone could save the NHS a fortune in recovery times. We have got to do something about it. But nothing ever happens.

You get lots and lots of promises from lots of people and nothing ever happens. Except for that study in Pohnpei, that was incredible.

But it has been a long old struggle and of course the theory all started from picking up, I don't know whether you can see, this GCSE Biology book.

Oh alright

I will hold it up so that everyone can see, it's by D.G.McKean

I wanted to understand what trees were doing with salts, that was the question that I had and I have an engineering background, so I got this from the car boot sale it cost me twenty pence because I am a cheapskate and wouldn't buy a new version.

I started to look through it and I just shook my head and I couldn't believe what I was reading, for example, Transport in Plants, Chapter 7 page 71.

"Water evaporates from the leaves and causes a kind of suction which pulls water up the stem".

Now hang on let's have a think about this for a second. We have a leaf that is full of pores, which are holes and you are telling me that those leaves can drag water 300 feet to the top of a giant Californian Redwood? I couldn't stop falling about laughing. It was absolutely ridiculous that that was being taught in schools and I do remember it from school.

But because of D.G. McKean who pus in his comments and he will add a little add on saying that there is insufficient evidence or that it is poorly understood and time and time again.

Many biologists regard transpiration as an inevitable consequence of photosynthesis in order to photosynthesise, a leaf has to take in carbon dioxide from the air and the pathway which allows carbon dioxide in will also let water vapour out.

Now if you have got a leaf with holes that is causing this magical suction, now surely it is going to suck air in because that is going to be the path of least resistance. So if you are generating a magical suction you are going to be drawing air in, but of course that doesn't happen.

The other thing I read was "You may have learned in physics that you cannot drawer water up by suction to a height of more than about 10 meters. But many trees are taller than this. So I thought now there is a contradiction in itself and there was just loads and loads of errors.

They are still marked, these are the original marks that were put in the book all those years ago, when I was falling about the floor laughing, so I said Ok then how does it really work?

It took me 20 minutes to solve it. I though, I will ignore all the stuff that doesn't make sense, which is about 99.9% of the book, and start with what I know as a fact.

I knew that 98% of all the water evaporates through the leaves so the water that is drawn in through the roots evaporates through the leaves.

And evaporated water must change the density of whatever it is evaporated from and that's the sap.

Now the sap contains sugars which are produced by converting carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and sugars as we know are denser than water so when we evaporate water from the leaf we change the density of the sap.

That is so bloody obvious and yet no one has thought about it?

So hang on if you make the sap denser at the top of the tree than at the bottom of the tree gravity dictates that the denser sap will migrate towards a sink and that sink could be a fruit, could be a branch, could be the trunk or could be a root. Predominantly the roots.

So we have triggered a downward flow towards the roots, now the tree takes up most of these salts and sugars in it's continual cycle of growth so there is the sump or the store, so any concentrated sap that reaches the roots would be diluted by incoming water from the soil, which is a dilute solution of nutrients.

That sap then is dragged back up the other side of the tree, so we have a downward flow generated by evaporation and gravity in the phloem, which generates molecular drag and that molecular drag is attached to every molecule in the tree and stretches right back down the xylem right the way down through the roots and out into the soil water, so by triggering that downward flow we are actually pulling water in from the soil into the tree, it's almost like if you can imagine the sap behaving like a piece of string and every now and again we clip a weight on the one side and that causes the whole thing to rotate, so the tree never needed to lift water from the roots to it's leaves. That was the mistake. They asked the wrong question.

The wrong question was how do trees raise water from the roots to the leaves.

The question that they should have asked was "Howe do trees circulate sap?" And then the answer would have been so blatantly obvious and yet we are still teaching this in school?

I even set up an experiment at the local secondary school in Paignton and the head of Science Mr Smith saw the tubular model which I had strung out of his upper classroom windows, which was a giant inverted U shape tube with both open ends submerged in two bottles of water and the whole loop of tubing was filled with water and a tiny amount of coloured salt solution, only 5 ml of salt solution was added to the centre of the tube, which was then raised to the upper classroom.

The salts peculated down one side, one bottle starts to over flow and the other bottle level goes down and it is not a siphon effect because if you trigger a siphon it is much quicker. This is a flow and a return flow driven by evaporation and gravity.

The school kids were there and they all listened and they all saw the experiment and they were all very excited.

And he pit's his hand up and says he has no problem with this, this is exactly how trees raise water to the leaves but what can I do about it? I have to keep teaching the National Curriculum.

It's crazy, this is the National Fools system not the National Schools system.

Yes

I even took it to Exeter University, I took it to, well it's been there a couple of times, to Professor Edzard Ernst

Have you heard of Ernst?

No

He is the guy in charge of alternative therapies, I suspect he is there to make sure that these alternative therapies never get off the ground and I was invited in there to give a talk about the discovery and there was a team there of Doctors and Ernst and they saw the experiments and heard the explanation, thoroughly agreed with it, sent me a letter saying they were very excited by it and we need to get a study done and what best would the study be conducted in?

I said well varicose veins and leg ulcers because they have shown remarkable recoveries and he said well we need to see this doctor and I won't mention the doctors name although I should mention the doctors name.

I had an invitation to go and see this doctor and as soon as I walked in the door he said are you My Fletcher? I said yes, He said; "Before you say a word, I don't want anything to do with you, your theory, your explanations or any possible study do I make myself clear?"

I said Oh Yeah perfectly and then I came away.

So he had quickly realised that him being a vascular guy depended on repeat vascular surgeries to make his lucrative living and the last thing he wants to hear is that a couple of blocks of wood under someone's bed could prevent someone from having vascular surgery.

It's close to murder taking that view point for a doctor isn't it, knowing that there is a cure and not taking it up that is murder isn't it?

It's disgraceful, I wouldn't say that it was murder.

But it is definitely disgraceful.

Well it is if their patients die.

He is lucky I am now mature because when I was a youngster I would have levelled the guy but there you go.

You grow up as you get older don't you.

Well yes supposedly that's what they say.

Talk to me a bit more about the leg ulcer thing, again do you have a good explanation as to why that is happening?

Yeah again it is tissue breakdown because of circulation, it is always circulation, circulation is so important because without circulation we are dust and bones. So anything that compromises the circulation be it a varicose ulcer or a pressure ulcer, what you have done you have actually impinged the circulation by an external pressure be that a vein or coming in contact with a bed or a chair for a prolonged period of time but if you can restore that circulation and the sloping bed excels in that because when you lay on the sloping bed, you will know this, your weight is distributed differently, you are no longer feel like a sack of spuds lying on the ground. The bed feels somehow softer and the you have applied traction to the spine but you have also applied some sheer forces to the tissue, which people have voiced concerns about, but you have also increased the circulation and if you can increase the circulation you can speed up the healing and my Father had varicose ulcers for 25 years and he was a window cleaner, a hard many, you will never meet a harder man. When he died of cancer he never took so much as a paracetamol.

He had 3 leg ulcers and they healed up while he was on the sloping bed. Just healed up, skinned over. They had never done that in 25 years, despite that he had all of the bandages, the seaweed, bandages on his legs and regular dressings, he had dressed his legs all of these years.

That is amazing, 25 years of leg ulcers, incredible.

So if it is improving circulation presumably you are getting results with erectile dysfunction?

Yes, we have had reports of erectile dysfunction, even in type two diabetes.

Well, that's very interesting

Yes, and early morning wood I think it's called, get a lot of reports on that.

I have interviewed a chap called Tony Pantalleresco once or twice and he has testosterone boosting formula and I thought well I will give that a try and see if I notice any differences. And I went to the International anti-ageing conference, two weeks ago and they had all the latest measuring equipment and so on and I went on several of the devices to get my levels measured and this guy says I can't believe it you have got the testosterone of a thirty year old, I was really chuffed you know.

But if anyone is interested in boosting their testosterone levels apart from inclined the bed check out Tony Pantalleresco and erectile dysfunction on Youtube.

Have you come across Tony?

Yes I have seen some of his videos, yeah

He is fantastic, my fridge is full of his concoctions.

Yeah he is quite an amazing guy yeah.

Absolutely

So we have run through quite a number of complaints, what other things have you noticed?

One of the first things we noticed and again this is how it happens, it is just nothing is planed we have gone down this ally, shine the light down and follow the light beam.

I met a lady and she was a palmist

and she pointed out about the half moons on your fingers, how important they were for circulation, she said always look at the half moons when we are reading someone's hands and we can tell a great deal I forget the formula but she said if they are too big there is a problem with the heart, if they are too small there is a problem with the circulation and she said that she can tell a great deal.

The strange thing is since I have had my bed tilted my half moons have come back.

That's really interesting. It's rare that you see any that apart from having half moons on their thumbs that they have half moons at all.

I have a full set of half moons

Very good.

The other guy John the guy's name with spinal cord injury apparently Afro-Caribbean's seldome have half moons and he, well actually he was African-American he got half moons on his fingers as well which was quite incredible.

And hair as well, that was another thing. I started to notice again it was rather embarrassing moment a nurse friend of mine she said I have got a complaint about this bed. I said tell me more, I am having to sheer my pubic hairs, she said because they won't stop growing they are no longer short and curly's and I thought that was fascinating because if you can maintain the circulation to the hair then there is no reason why it should drop out.

So I started to monitor my own hair on my head and I noticed that the colour had changed and it had started to go darker although you can't see a great deal here but I noticed that I stopped getting hair on my pillows, now this was also backed up by Roger Kirk who I mentioned earlier with multiple sclerosis, because Roger said quite off the cuff, "How come my hair brush has got no hair in it any more? I used to spend ages picking all of the hair out of the brush and I don't find hair in the shower any more?"

So I did an experiment and I have my hair cut as you can see it's one style every time and my wife she cuts my hair so we were having it cut at two monthly intervals and I was saving all the hair in these little tins and I saved them up for a whole year.

I looked across the hair follicles and there was a definite change in the hair texture and a definite change in the hair colour, it was getting darker.

And also there was more hair, so my hair was growing more more which is we are led to believe any way that it is not going to happen.

Anyway it was fascinating and I really don't think and I have still got more hair than my younger brother.

Well brilliant, do you know a very funny thing about 20 years ago I met this guy who insisted that I touched his head and he had like this baby hair all over his head. He said that he had been bald for several years but he had a back injury and he decided to help his back injury that he would get an inversion table, where you strap your seat in and hang upside down for five minutes a day and after a few months he noticed his hair re-growing it seemed that the blood flowing upside down had stimulated his follicle growth.

Well you are still using gravity if you are upside down but the problem with being upside down and again my wife and I tested it.

Ok I will give you the full story. I wanted to understand if there are any changes to the density of urine because we had tilted the bed, so we measured our urine density using a hydrometer and we measured the urine density while we were on an angled bed head up feet down

And then we measured the urine density on a flat bed

and normal daily activity urine density

and head down density, so that we were lying head down with our feet up.

What we found was is that the flat bed actually lowered the urine density over and above normal daily activity and it was quite remarkable how the salts were not being excreted in the urine.

And the we measured the inclined bed and we found that the urine density went up markedly so the urine was much stronger and much more dense than either horizontal or normal daily routines.

And the icing on the cake again came when we slept head down and feet up. What we found was that the urine density went down to near water readings, in other words no toxins were leaving the body while we were head down and feet up.

The side spin on that was that we both got diarrhoea, We did it for a few days and the diarrhoea was quite persistent.

Yes it would be a great slimming aid to sleep head down and feet up. But NASA have spent thousands and thousands of dollars paying people to, in fact I think you can get 7,000 dollars just for sleeping head down and feet up with out getting out of bed for a few months.

What they found is, is that they can accelerate the ageing process by ten times faster than here on Earth and that mirrors exactly what happens to astronauts in space, because you have taken gravity out of the equation in space. You have not actually but you have negated it's effects by spinning around the Earth fast enough to counter act the pull of the Earth.

But you have not actually got away from gravity. But Astronauts, again back to the ebola virus again their immune system in space gets knocked about. The bone mineral loss is prolific, 10 x faster that here on Earth, neurological damage has been experienced, multiple organ failures from bed rest and from being in space. You know it just doesn't matter which way you hit this from it just matches up.

Well amazing, and what other health issues has it overcome?

Let me give you one. How about lung function, emphysema or anything like that,

Yes this is a really interesting one. There was a dog with it's lungs filling up with fluid, it was a rotweiler and it was having it's lungs drained two times a week at the vets and the vet said I can't do this any more and he had literally taken the dog home to die.

And a person that had been listening to my theory and my explanations and who had been sleeping on a sloping bed, told him;, he said look just shove the dog in a room and put the dehumidifier on. Because I had explained how my friends fish tank was being emptied of water and his dehumidifier was filling up of water because he had dried the air out so the water molecules were leaving the fish tank into the air and then into the dehumidifier and he was forever topping up the fish tank so he put the dog in the room and left the dehumidifier running and it cleared up the fluid on the lungs. That was without the sloping bed. But of course respiratory problems is one of the things along with hiatus hernia and gerd is is that the medical profession will actually recommend raising the head end of the bed on blocks, So they know it does work.

But the worse thing is and I have seen this with my own eyes is that the nurses and the doctors know full well how harmful the flat bed is and I'll just see if I can find you the..... This is De conditioning, The Consequences Of Bed-Rest By: Colleen S. Campbell MSN, ARNP BC, CRRNA Geriatric Evaluation & Management (GEM)

Director Geriatric Research Education Clinical Center

(GRECC)

Objectives of this document is to

Discuss de conditioning as a clinical entity resulting in a reduced functional capacity of multiple body systems

Discuss the psychophysiology of prolonged bed rest

List key interventions that prevent and treat the consequences of bed rest.

Inactivity and prolonged bed rest are unnatural states of the human body.

And now this is a very very moving piece by Doctor Richard Asher written in 1942.

Look at the patient lying alone in bed

What a pathetic picture he makes.

The blood clotting in his veins.

The lime draining from his bones.

The scybola stacking up in his colon.

The flesh rotting from his seat.

The urine leaking from his distended bladder

and the spirit evaporating from his soul.

Teach us to live that

we may dread unnecessary time in bed.

Get people up and we may save

patients from an early grave.

So they know but back to what I was going to talk about was when someone is terminally ill there is a practice that is unwritten, and it's the removal of pillows from terminally ill patients and this actually speeds up their deaths and this is practised in many hospitals around the U.K. and many other countries.

In fact it is mentioned in the Jewish Code Of Ethics.

"It is forbidden to remove the pillows from a patient who is terminally ill to speed up their demise.

So they know that the bed is not the right way to go and yet hospitals count their success by the number of beds

Wow, so with the hiatus hernia they already know that the raised beds work

Yes

Do you think that you can cure the hiatus hernia with the inclined bed alone or do you need to do a lot more?

I have not had any feedback from anyone that has said that it has but I haven't been looking at hiatus hernia because I have been trying to concentrate on conditions that are thought to be irreversible. Probably I shouldn't have done that, probably I should have gone down the route of re-examining what has happened with hiatus hernia.

But certainly if you get a problem with acid, and you tilt the bed you notice a great deal of improvements in the damage that the acid causes.

And again we know that premature babies in hospitals are on inclined platforms where they sleep and yet the parents take them home and put them on flat beds and that baby has never been flat.

So I don't have any data to say that I have cured hiatus hernia, but I have not had anyone come back to me and say that It hasn't been cured either.

Right right, it's amazing what they do to hasten deaths and the most frightening one is the Liverpool Pathway.

What is the Liverpool Pathway?

The Liverpool Pathway is where they starve the patients to death. They stop giving them food and water

Right, yes yes.

And so if anybody has an elderly relative in the hospital and they hear them say that they are going to put them on the Liverpool pathway, they are saying that we are going to kill your mother and father or whatever it is very slowly now. and it is totally criminal.

I really don't know how they can sleep at night. I really don't

No I don't either.

So serious issues, what other serious ones have you seen reversed?

Skin conditions, quite a few people with psoriasis. A friend of mine, again we mentioned the one lady with psoriatic arthritis. but there is another lady with psoriasis and well she took a series of, well she came down to my home and we took a series of photographs and then we took another series of photographs in a few weeks time and another set of photographs and the evidence spoke for itself, the skin was clearing up.

I am trying to think of other conditions.

Spine problems aside from spinal cord injury, back ache and people with slipped disks, it has definitely helped there and again the traction applied by the bed eases the joints apart and on a previous radio interview, the listeners were invited to try the bed just put some six inch blocks under your bed and see what happens and then he invited me back in 3 months and I went back and we had reports back that people with ms were saying yep it is helping and varicose veins there were reports that veins had decreased and snoring. We mentioned bed wetting earlier with youngsters wetting the bed and for nurses if you can solve the problem with people wetting the bed in hospital it would take a tremendous amount of pressure off the hospital staff.

Sight problems people with sight problems were reporting that they couldn't actually see clearly out of their glasses and were going back to their old prescription glasses, so there were improvements and again that happened with the first pilot study with ms. Other people and including one of the guys with a spinal cord injury that were reporting there were improvements with the eyesight.

Have we lost you Clive?

Sorry I couldn't get the sound on.

How about hearing?

Any body getting increases in hearing?

Well my..... there is only one case that I know of it is interesting because it was only brief.

And then it stopped.

He is not really my Stepfather, but my Mother's husband, he had meningitis as a child which left him deaf and we tilted the bed and he began complaining about the loud noises outside of the house.

Saying that the police cars were frightening him and ambulances when they went passed. Now there has not been an upsurge in those vehicles going passed all of a sudden. They have been going passed but he hadn't made the connection that it was helping with his ears.

But alas the bed went down again so you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them think.

Yes, well that is You can lead a Human to Knowledge but you can't make them think.

Yeah quite, exactly because knowledge is all very good but without wisdom to use that knowledge wisely it is pretty useless.

Hmm But what do we do with this now Clive? We have got this thing here that could actually save out NHS a great deal of money and can save the patients a great deal of suffering. It would put a stop to amputations.

Oh Gangrene as well, I have had some success with gangrene, I met a guy down in Paignton and he had this huge bandage on his foot.

I asked him what the problem was and he said that he had got gangrene and he went away and tilted his bed and he got back to me and said that his surgeon was amazed that the flesh that his surgeon had been removing from his foot was actually growing back.

Old scar tissue as well, which is very interesting. I have had a few reports of old scars that have been there since childhood with some people. A lady down the road had a gristly scar on her chin and it just up and went. It vanished.

DVT Deep vein thrombosis vanished without a trace just by increasing the circulation. You know where do we stop?

Well it is truly amazing and hopefully listeners hearing this will try and spread this to every body that they know.

You know there are people that are losing their lives, losing their health, losing their income, because of all of these difficulties.

And people forget that we are not meant to be ill. It isn't normal in the slightest way. You look at a flock of birds or a school of fish or a herd of animals in the wild and simply you can't tell which one is about to give birth tomorrow, you can't tell the oldest from the youngest because they are all moving at the same speed, all together at the same time and yet humans get diseases just like any of those animals or birds or fish would do if you keep them in an unnatural environment.

Yes

We did touch upon fertility and erectile dysfunction and just an interesting report from a member of the family who was trying to conceive and had tried in vitro-fertilisation and she had spent quite a bit of money trying to conceive and actually gave up and we tilted the bed. Or she tilted the bed.

And she conceived without the I.V.F. Now I did mention this before now do the sperm need to know which way is up and which way is down? You know is simply being on an angle sufficient to guide the semen to the egg?

It is something that no one has considered.

No that's very interesting.

Yeah

And is that, have you heard that story quite often with conception?

No I don't get a great deal of, I do get feed back but are people willing to talk about you know their sexual activity to someone who is not a Doctor. I don't profess to be a doctor, I have an engineering background. I am hardly the person that you would wanna confide in about something so personal?

Certainly with conception matters the people who, you know the couples who really want to conceive generally they will go to the ends of the Earth to do it won't they?

Hopefully they will go to the end of the bed and jack it up.

If you jack it up my word of advice is to use thick medical books, you know the more complicated the better, And you might find that some of that will rub off. Yeah.

Amazing

Yeah and of course you can buy some furniture risers, you get a pack of 4 from I have seen them on Ebay for £10 including the postage, So pop two under your bed and pop two in your suitcase for when you are away from home.

So when you are propping the bed do you normally have to prop up the middle of the bed as well?

Yes it depends what kind of bed they have, if there is a leg there, obviously you will need to prop the centre leg up.

There are a couple of videos about inclined bed therapy, Deanna Castro talking about her success, she had ruptured disks, in her neck and in her back and she was off work. I do believe that she is back at work.

Against all of the odds.

There is an elderly lady that has been racked with pain after being hit by a motorcycle since the age of 13 and she has been in excruciating pain and when you saw this lady walking you would imagine that she was drunk, she was in so much pain but the pain has gone, she dances she runs, it's incredible.

That's amazing, Gillian in the chat room is asking are there any different angles of the tilt that one should apply to any different problems or is this always the same?

I did specify that people with a spinal cord injury would need to raise their bed higher and the logic here is that there is a guy called Ronald Meyer and he did some experiments by severing the optic nerve of a fish a frog a mouse a rat and a rabbit.

And what he did was he showed that the fish and the frog even though he had severed the optic nerve the same, within a few months the optic nerve had grown back and both could see perfectly normally.

But if you think about the posture of the frog and the fish, if they are lying on their sides they are generally dead. So they are always upright, so by severing the optic nerve the angle from the brain to the eye was intact. They never interrupted the circulation so the circulation continued and the repairs took place.

Now I like to think that these nerves in spinal cord injury require exactly the same signals as saplings and seedlings from plants. In other words, they need to know which way up and which way down is for them to grow in the right direction and meet their targets. I think this is where that main problem is with a spinal cord injury is immediately they are placed on a flat bed and then they rotate them.

Now back to Meyer, Meyer his rat his mouse is rabbit, no nerve regeneration took place because they like ourselves were able to change posture at will so there was never the constant direction of gravity to restore the circulation and repair the damaged nerves. Now with the bed on a slightly higher angle it represented the angle of the optic nerve regeneration in the fish and the frog. And that was the logic that I came up with to apply the higher angle for a person with a spinal cord injury.

And also it would apply to a person with multiple sclerosis as well. But the old six inch incline on a standard U.K. bed is a good rule of thumb.

But you know, hey experiment you might find out that raising the bed a little bit higher is more beneficial to yourself.

There is no hard and fast rule with this. The reason that I came up with the five degree angle which incidentally was the same angle that the Ancient Egyptians had come up with five thousand years ago, I used a loop of tubing which I connected so that it was a closed loop of tubing filled with water with a little coloured salt solution at the one end and that was stretched along the length of the bed.

Now if I raised the bed up just a few inches, i.e. four inches the salts migrated down the bed but the return flow was in the same side of the loop of tubing, i.e the fluid in that side of the tubing was flowing in two directions so the down flow was on bottom of the tube and the return flow was above it in the same side.

When you raised the bed to five inches then the whole loop circulated, so we added an extra inch just to be on the safe side as a margin of error and it seems to have been a good choice.

One of the other things is injuries. Broken bones. My son broke his wrist and there have been other reports as well.

This guy 82 years of age who broke his hip and the doom and gloom had set in. You know, the Doctors and the nurses because he has got diabetes and he is 82 years old, you know, it's er..... Anyway he was out of hospital in a few weeks, he said I am not staying in here, his legs were swollen and he got back on his sloping bed and his legs went down to normal size and he amazed the physiotherapists and the healing at 82 years of age was something they had never seen before.

But back to my son. He broke his wrist and he wore a plaster cast for six weeks and he went to Torbay Hospital and had the plaster cast taken off and the muscle wastage was obvious in one arm. One arm was very thin and the other arm was normal size and now a year later. Oh and he had to have physiotherapy. He had to have physiotherapy to get his had working and he had a lot of pain. and I think it was a couple of years later that he broke the same wrist but this time he does a better job straight through both bones, he has metal plates put in his writs and this was the time that he was actually in the recovery room upside down.

And he has the metal plates in and the plaster cast is on for 8 weeks, but it's sort of an open plaster cast and that's on for eight weeks and he goes back to the hospital, the same hospital and has the plaster cast removed and there is no muscle wastage and he doesn't need physiotherapy.

Now the surgeon there has to take the two metal plates out and he can't find the one metal plate it has been completely overgrown by bone and I will quote the guy; "He said in the whole of his career he has never seen bone growth like it in his life."

Well that's amazing. I would like to ask you about a friend of mine, someone who 35 years ago or something fell out of a tree and broke his back.

Yes

He has got a gap in his spine a centimetre or two I am not quite sure what. Is there any chance Inclined Bed Therapy could help?

Yes there is, I have helped some members of the SAS with spinal cord injury and in fact my wife and I were at ring side seats at the boxing tournament at Hereford and we were treated like Royalty and I have been helping these guys and because their injuries were so many years ago and I forget how many years, one Guy John Cann who was paralysed for 11 years and he actually walked on Carlton Television News. In between two parallel bars but you can see his legs moving his feet moving, he got his bowl control back he got his bladder control back so he passed it on to his friends at the SAS and this other guy who I can;t mention his name but I think his injury was similar length of time to to what you have just described there and he said if all that I get back is my dignity I will be very happy.,

He got his bowel and bladder control back.

After 30 odd years.

Incredible incredible.

But of course if we can intervene at an earlier stage and prevent these people from being on a flat bed in the first place then the Sky is the limit.

Yes, well fantastic.

So for those people that are listening you are saying before we came on air that you are going to write a book or you are in the process of writing a book?

Yes.

The book title is going to be called the Gravity of Life. Hope you like the choice of the title.

Yes very good

It's been written a couple of times and I wouldn't have done it justice I needed to have got to this stage before I could have done the whole subject justice.

Well that's my excuse anyway and Yeah I think it's gonna be a real eye opener.

Well hopefully it will be a best seller as well, when do you think that might come out?

Well it needs to be finished through this winter and hopefully published in the spring.

And if people want to see more of your work what is your website?

It is inclinedbedtherapy.com

Inclined Bed Therapy Dot Com Excellent

Well we have a Facebook as well where people are sharing what is happening to them and you will find and again it goes by the same name on Facebook Inclined Bed Therapy, we have a group and a page and there is quite a few people there who have been sleeping on an angled bed for a long time and they will be willing to share their experiences. There is one lady in particular on there Terri, her name is Terri Harrison she doesn't believe that she has ms any more it has gone completely, her neurologist has actually told her that she doesn't need him any more. So that is quite remarkable but she is there for people to talk to amongst many other people who are trying it.

The problem is you are armed with this information, you have listened to this radio station and you will go out there and you will try and convince someone and they will just look at you as if you have gone daft. You know I don't know why it is, I used to chase wheelchairs and try and help people but I stopped that a long time ago no body listens.

Well it's a great shame, the words I hear quite often are if that where true the doctors would have told me..

Yes Yes, The one I hear all the time is is if it was true then there would be a clinically controlled double blinded trial and we would have all of the data by now. But actually the people that say this have no idea what we are up against. No idea whatsoever! You can't move these people! They are in the process of the status quo, they like the status quo and the last thing they want to do is be made to look a fool and a lot of them believe me are fools.

Well quite, so have we covered all of the things that it will do?

No No No, I just get... I try and think back to what we have talked about, we have talked about scar tissue, we have talked about the immune system especially with the ebola but also that same applies to people with aids and hiv, the same problem there is a diminished immune response so.

Yes, Ok there is a guy who has died now which was unfortunate, but when I met him this guy called Danny he had months to live with leukaemia and we tilted the bed and his blood cell count started to normalise and have to cross check here just to at this point in time that when astronauts go into space their white blood cell count goes up and their red blood cell count drops. So clearly gravity is playing a role.

And when we tilted Danny's bed his white blood cell count dropped and his red blood cell count went up, which is the exact opposite of what leukaemia is. This guy comes over from Boston as specialist in leukaemia and he can't believe the changes. So anyway this guy doesn't need the chemotherapy and the radio therapy any more so comes back to Paignton from Cornwall and they take his bed off him because he can't move that bed out of one area to another area so he goes back to sleeping on a flat bed.

Immediately his blood cell count goes hey wire and this guy from Boston get's on the phone and says what has happened, what has changed? So he told him about the bed, so the guy from Boston said the bed Danny, get then bed back on an angle. And he did and he lived well I can't remember exactly but I think it was like five or six years and he was given months to live.

Wow

So that I would suspect as well that there is a danger with the bed that it can actually increased the effectiveness of drugs and again if you take the astronauts in space, they have to increase the doses in space because the uptake while they are out there which is the equivalent of being on a flat bed, decreases the effectiveness of the drugs so they increaser the drugs to support their immune system or whatever problems they have and I believe that when you have the bed on an angle the opposite occurs and you have to think about decreasing the drugs.

It could be a good thing.

Yeah but I have to be careful here because if a doctor is prescribing those drugs to you and you have got all of your faith in that doctor then you have to make these choices yourself and not just on what I am saying here but it is quite easy to monitor whether the drug is being more effective or not so decide for yourselves.

Right very interesting and hopefully people who are listening to this will try the inclined bed therapy method and will get back to Andrew or myself to let us know what positive results you get because clearly

Well negative results as well Clive, you know I am interested in things that it doesn't work with as well.

Yep yes clearly.

We have got about two minutes left and I would just like to say that myself I have a weekend workshop from next month from the 15th and the 16th of November, held in Wiltshire and if any body wanted to come to the weekend workshop we will be covering every aspect of physical health and also mind mastering because clearly there is so much one can do with the power of the mind that people are unaware of and with the raised bed therapy and all of the other stuff, treatments and remedies that we know of... frankly there is almost nothing that can't be solved, I used to think that people on dialysis couldn't get off but you can get off dialysis in not every case possibly but in a lot of cases and I am going to start now, I mean I already have been but I am really going to suggest to all of my clients big time that every single one of them does the Inclined Bed and I will let you know what occurs.

Yes, please please please, the feedback is so important every little bit of feedback that we get means that eventually another clinical trial will be made and when we actually get some progress within the medical profession then these reports will be so important because anecdotal evidence one could be deemed as a miracle, two could be a coincidence three is just plain science.

We are at the end of the show now, than you so much Andrew. My email is Clive at ancientpurity.com so if anyone wants to get in touch with me they are very welcome. Also got a website called ancientpurity.com and another one called healthgenious.uk and so thank you very much Andrew Thank you every body for listening.

Thank you for having me on Clive.

Well thank you so much I really appreciate all of your time and that's it from us good night.

Good night people.

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Does Inclined Bed Therapy Help The Body To Become Stronger & Healthier? With Andrew K. Fletcher

Does inclined bed therapy work? Why does sleeping on a raised bed help to improve health? Can sleeping with your head tilted up 15 cm or 6 inches actually help to prevent disease? Can sleeping on an inclined bed help the body to get rid of disease?

We talk about all this and more with Andrew K. Fletcher. The health benefits of sleeping on an inclined bed are almost too numerous to count. It's pretty compelling when you start doing the research!

Let me know if you start experimenting with inclined bed therapy and what positive (or negative) health affects you have!

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31-08-2015 - Sleep + Gravity + Health = Fascinating Radio, Andrew K Fletcher, Andy Young, Inclined Bed Therapy

Andrew Fletcher explains why we should avoid sleeping on a flat bed and asks us to question why so many conditions worsen during the night. Listen to this podcast and test his idea that sleeping on a five degree head of the bed up angle to find out for yourself whether gravity plays a vital role in our circulation. Best of all, IBT is free and is spreading throughout the world, and reaching vilages in Africa, where IBT is helping people have have nothing, to regain their health without drugs.

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Published on 11 Jun 2015

In this video you will learn how to take back control of your health. You will hear first hand accounts from people who have been using Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT) for many years and from others who have recently started. 

Welcome to Granada's Workshop on the Tuesday
9th of the 6th 20-15.

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The stark skeleton is back and I have a great
guest this week for you guys, certainly its

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something that excited me when I learned about
it and my guest is an all-round good feller

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to be honest and I would like to welcome Andrew
Fletcher, Welcome to Awake Radio.

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Thank you very much Steven.
I hope your listeners are going to enjoy this.

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My first question would be, who designed your
bed and what qualifications di he have or

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she have to state the human race should sleep
on a flat bed?

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Actually, the literature states, the medical
literature that is, that sleeping on a flat

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bed is probably the worse thing you can do
and yet we all do it?

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It's really bizarre
Yes, well it's something I never really questioned

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until such times as I had come across yourself.
How did you come across it and what made you

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aware of this situation?
Well it's a strange one really, I bought a

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GCSE Biology book because I was struggling
to try and understand how fluid was transported

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in trees, how sap moved from the roots up
to the leaves.

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I bought the book from a car boot sale and
within 20 minutes I had solved a problem that

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has puzzled scientists since science began.
The problem was that they asked the wrong

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question. You see the question is how do trees
raise water from the roots up to the leaves.

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Well that suggests a one way flow, but if
we look at a tree we have got a downward flow

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and a return flow, so the downward flow is
in the phloem laden with heavy sap and the

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return flow is in the xylem with dilute sap
because the xylem picks up water from the

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soil.
Now the theory I came up with was that the

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evaporation from the leaves of a tree which
concentrates the sap by per cent, because

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it evaporates 98 per cent of all of the water
that enters through the roots, through the

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leaves, so that must concentrate the sap at
the top of the tree.

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Now the leaves produce sugars by photosynthesis
and the sap also contains nutrients from the

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soil, so that massive loss of moisture must
make the sap denser at the top of the tree

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than at the bottom of the tree.
So gravity dictates that the denser sap will

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migrate towards a sink. Now that sink can
be a fruit or it can be down through the trunk

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of the tree out through the branches and down
to the roots.

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Now as the sap percolates down through the
tree, the tree takes up the excess or spent

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salts and sugars in it's cycle of growth,
storing them away in it's ever increasing

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girth of it's trunk and the branches, so any
sap laden with salts and sugars that reaches

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the roots is diluted by incoming water from
the soil.

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So that makes the upward flow always less
dense than the downward flow.

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The correct question should have been: How
do trees circulate sap?

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If they had asked that question then the answer
would have been blatantly obvious. You know,

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the downward flow generates a return flow,
because as the sap flows down one side, it

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generates molecular drag. In other words each
molecule that moves down is dragging on the

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molecule behind it and that molecule behind
it can reach right the way back down through

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the xylem flow and out into the ground water,
so in effect that down-flow is not only dragging

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water up to the top of a giant Californian
Redwood, it is actually pulling the water

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in towards the roots.
Now to test this, I set up a simple experiment

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in Brixham using 6 millimetre bore tubing,
the kind that is used in the pub trade, clear

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nylon had a giant loop of water filled tubing
that was strung up a cliff to 24 meters up

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a cliff
The science books says it can only go to ten

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meters.
Well I didn't take any notice of that and

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neither do the trees.
So what I showed in front of forestry commission

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scientists and journalists back in I think
it was 1997 or could have been earlier than

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97.
What I showed there was that a tiny pinch

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of salt in one side of this tube which is
filled with boiled water, so we have taken

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out any gas bubbles, with both open ends pushed
into two bottles of water both equal level

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with the ground and to the centre of the tube
before it's hoisted up the cliff, I have added

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10 millilitres of coloured salt solution with
food dye and as the tube rises, the salt solution

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starts flowing down one side and one bottle
starts to overflow and the fluid level in

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the bottle on the other side goes down, which
means that tiny 10 millilitres of salt solution

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is lifting thousands of times its own volume,
vertically without a pump to 24 metres.

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There is a video on Youtube of the actual
experiment that day.

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When I did that, I actually have repeated
the experiment many times, I realised we are

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dealing with a none living physical force
that must apply wherever evaporation takes

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place at the upper end of a column that contains
liquids which are heavy denser substance,

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now that includes blood in the body, the lymphatic
system and the cerebrospinal fluid circulation.

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So the evaporation from our respiratory tract
is doing exactly the same as the trees, so

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we are boiling away water. Now that means
the blood that supplies the lungs as it enters

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is less dense but as it exits the lungs it
becomes more dense because we are evaporating

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water away from this liquid, so it then passes
through the heart and then the heart injects

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it back into the main artery and if we are
the right way around according to gravity,

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I.E. standing up or lying on an inclined bed.
Gravity can assist the circulation around

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the body.
When I nailed this, I thought this is really

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interesting and one of the first things we
tested it with was varicose veins.

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And oedema and within four weeks a varicose
vein had gone flat , but not one varicose

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vein another vein on a nurse that had also
become interested in the theory a nurse called

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Stephanie Ness who tilted her bed and she
reported in 4 weeks that her varicose vein

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had gone flat.
Now that told me that we had nailed something

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really important because the medical profession
will say to ease your varicose veins you need

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to raise your legs up. We have done the opposite
and it has had a lasting effect.

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Hmm, well you know oedema is a thing that
I am familiar with and that is what I am trying

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to use the inclined bed therapy for at the
moment for my feet are obviously swelling

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up, but effectively what you are talking about
the sap in the tree is it's a circulatory

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problem that we are improving if you
Yes

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like on an inclined bed
Another angle if you will excuse the pun was

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to see if anybody had done anything with an
angled bed or an inclined bed before and it

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turns out that in Ancient Constantinople the
hospitals there were praised as being the

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most successful having the most successful
track record with treating people with illnesses

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had their beds inclined according to a painting
which I had found and when I went back further,

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in the ancient Egyptian Tombs, the grave robbers
went in and pulled out all the gold and the

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jewels.
They missed the elephant in the room and the

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elephant in this room was that the beds were
inclined and to this date, no one has asked

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why these very clever people were sleeping
on inclined beds?

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I went as far to ask a curator at the Boston
Museum to measure one of these beds and it

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was raised exactly six inches higher at the
head end. Exactly the same angle I had arrived

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at by observing the way fluids flowed around
a closed loop of tubing, again with a pinch

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of salt solution at the pillow end. If I raised
the bed up to 4 inches, what I got was a two

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tier flow in one side of the closed loop of
tubing. In other words, the coloured salt

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solution was flowing down on the bottom of
the one side of the tube and the return flow

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was above it so I had two directional flow
in one side of the closed loop of tube.

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When I started to get over 5 inches then the
whole loop of tubing was circulating, so that

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represented the down flow as the arteries
and the return flow as the venous return and

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that was how I arrived at the angle. But they
got there before me.

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And in fact if we go back to the sweating
sickness in the Tudor period, what they found

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was this illness which is still a mystery
today had killed millions of people and what

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they found was that if they placed two guards
by the side of the bed , presumably to prevent

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the person from laying down, because generally
if they did lay down they were dead by the

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morning. They survived and a tempest raged
across the country for a few days , a storm.

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This is written up in the annals of history
and it swept the unusually humid atmosphere

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away, it swept it away. Now if you sweep out
high humidity from the atmosphere, what you

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are doing is you are enabling the lungs to
clear fluid from the lungs. If you are breathing

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in as much water as you are breathing out,
that has an impact on your circulation and

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then if you sleep on a flat bed that's a double
impact on your circulation.

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Hmmm You mentioned that before about the humidity
and that makes a whole lot of sense

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Yes and the strange thing is in hospitals
they actually nebulise water into people lungs.

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Now we should have a certain amount of water
but maybe this should be done intermittently

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so as not to stagnate the circulation in the
lungs.

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In my case when I have been in hospital, three
times a day I may be getting fluids put into

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my lungs and so that would seem to be an awful
lot to what your saying there yes.

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Well doctors and nurses are recommending raising
the foot end of the bed to relieve oedema

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and varicose veins and this does provide some
temporary relief because it shifts the fluid

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problem back into the upper torso but when
you stand up again in the morning the oedema

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comes back. Now with the sloping bed, the
inclined bed, this alters the pressure in

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the veins, because the oedema in the legs
is caused because the pressure in the veins

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is greater than the surrounding tissue, so
the fluid flows out from from the veins into

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the surrounding tissue causing the swelling,
With the sloping bed as we have discussed

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it pulls the varicose veins in so what we
have done is applied tension to the blood

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in the veins and we have also lowered the
pressure in the blood in the veins which causes

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the fluid to migrate from the legs back into
the circulatory system, through the circulatory

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system and out into the kidneys where it is
filtered and out into the bladder where it

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is excreted in the urine
And that's the other part of the circulatory

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system in the body because as the blood flows
down in the arteries, the concentrated blood

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with the salts it flows through the kidneys,
the kidneys filter out theses salts and excrete

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them in the urine. That's why hot urine will
sink to the bottom of the toilet, so the blood

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passing through the kidneys is less dense.
Meaning that the blood in the venous return

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is always less dense than the down-flow in
the arteries.

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Hmm you say the venous return, would you like
to explain that a little bit more?

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It's the flow of blood back through the veins
to the heart.

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Right I see
So that's the oxygen deficient blood returning

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back to the heart.
Yeah very interesting Yeah You have obviously

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had some success with different people with
legs that have become enlarged and so on.

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Do you think you could tell us of some of
those?

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Yes.
The first problem I had was looking at ladies

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legs for all the wrong reasons
Ha ha ha

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I was looking for varicose veins and oedema,
which is a strange thing to be doing.

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But my Mother had varicose veins and oedema
and i managed to convince her that I wasn't

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insane. She eventually succumbed and tilted
the bed and after four weeks she phoned me

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up and said what's this bed all about?
I said, look Mom I have explained it to you

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She said well run it by me one more time
I said you have got something to tell me about

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your veins, she said Oh yes the veins have
improved, she said, but I'm standing here

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twiddling my toes and moving my ankle on my
left foot.

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I said what do you want a round of applause?
She said I haven't done that for ten years.

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ha ha ha ha right, very good
That was interesting because that indicated

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that not only was the blood circulation affected
but this was also the circulation in the nervous

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system. Because she had obviously got some
nerve damage having lost control of the limb

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and the sensitivity.
That then led on to other research into neurological

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conditions. But back to your oedema. Yes we
have had quite a few people reporting in that

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edema is reduced significantly and the most
spectacular was with a guy with Parkinson's

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disease over in Torquay.
He had severely swollen body, best described

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as he was like a water balloon.
We tilted his bed for the Parkinson's and

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within a few days his wife was on the phone
saying I can't stop my husband from urinating.

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It was like a continuous stream of urine and
by the end of the week his clothes fell on

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the floor because he had lost so much weight
from fluid.

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I can imagine
But the other one was an interesting one,

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I had a meeting with a vascular surgeon called
Peter Lewis and another vascular surgeon called

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Celeste, and this was at Lewis's home in Torquay
and I showed him my experiments on the kitchen

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table and his reaction was; "My god he said,
I thought pure science was dead in the water

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and yet here it is on the Kitchen table. He
said this just makes so much sense.

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What do you think would happen if someone
was running, what would happen to the pressures

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in the veins and the arteries?
I said I would expect to see an increase in

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arterial pressure and an equal decrease in
venous pressure.

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He said; that's exactly what happens and nobody
in Medical school understands why.

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Right
And then he said I have a patient in Torquay

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hospital who has ascitis of the liver, which
is swelling of the abdominal cavity with fluid

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and he described her as being like a giant
water balloon.

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He said we have tried diuretics and nothing
worked. He said I'm just going to leave the

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meeting for a second and I will go to Torquay
and it was just around the corner from where

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Peter lived, and I will just go and check
on this lady.

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And when he come back he said; it's exactly
as you have said. The fluid loss I have seen

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is unprecedented. No diuretics worked and
raising the legs didn't work, but tilting

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the whole patient has shown remarkable improvements.
So he was convinced, lots of promises have

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been made that the medical profession will
help me here with studies. And help me to

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get over these hurdles, you know nothing ever
happens, you just have to do what you can

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with the limited resources you have at hand.
Yeah I mean that's effectively they can't

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make money out of it I think is why they are
not helping you.

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Yes that's the problem Steve, you have hit
the nail on the head. If there was a lot of

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money involved, people could make a lot of
money and you would get the help of vascular

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surgeons.
Edzard Ernst. I had a meeting with him at

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Exeter Hospital and he was really fascinated
by the experiments that I showed him on his

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work top. And he agreed that we should conduct
a study into varicose veins and oedema because

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the visual observations would be difficult
to disprove.

0:18:16.070,0:18:20.440
So he arranged for me to see a doctor who
would give us access to his patients.

0:18:20.440,0:18:25.540
I travelled to Exeter on my own, went to see
this guy and as I walked through the door

0:18:25.540,0:18:30.120
he said; Are you mr Fletcher? I said yes.
He said, let me make one thing clear. I do

0:18:30.120,0:18:36.130
not want anything to do with you, your theory
or any trial do I make myself clear?

0:18:36.130,0:18:44.370
I said perfectly. I walked away.
He makes a living from repeat surgery operating

0:18:44.370,0:18:46.590
on varicose veins.
Yes

0:18:46.590,0:18:52.520
So why would he want to learn that two blocks
of wood under someone's bed could actually

0:18:52.520,0:18:56.650
prevent those veins from getting worse and
improve them?

0:18:56.650,0:19:02.160
Yeah, that's the difference between someone
that is doing a job and a healer.

0:19:02.160,0:19:03.210
Yeah,
Effectively

0:19:03.210,0:19:09.870
I am just in it for the science. You asked
me for a little bit about myself. I have an

0:19:09.870,0:19:16.290
engineering background. I was a mechanical
engineer like yourself, heavy engineering

0:19:16.290,0:19:20.040
as well as an apprentice boiler maker in the
Midlands.

0:19:20.040,0:19:29.540
Erm, I have quite a varied background, lateral
thinking is my main stumbling block, because

0:19:29.540,0:19:38.170
if I see a problem I try and solve it.
And it becomes quite an occupation, 20 years

0:19:38.170,0:19:42.060
later I am still trying to solve problems
for people.

0:19:42.060,0:19:46.820
Well I mean from what I was talking to you
Andrew and it has been thoroughly fascinating

0:19:46.820,0:19:51.120
every time I have spoken to you, you distil
your own oils, your solar power and things

0:19:51.120,0:19:56.820
like that, I know that's a little bit off
subject but it certainly shows you are a man

0:19:56.820,0:20:01.730
of many talents that's for sure.
aye.

0:20:01.730,0:20:05.970
My worst nightmare is having to call someone
out to do something for me.

0:20:05.970,0:20:11.390
Ha ha ha ha
Well with Granada s workshop, I try and promote

0:20:11.390,0:20:18.190
people to be self dependent and your exactly
what that is, your being self dependent. I

0:20:18.190,0:20:25.060
find that fascinating really.
So the question here is how safe is that flat

0:20:25.060,0:20:30.350
bed?
It's labelled death bed. That should be a

0:20:30.350,0:20:32.920
big clue really shouldn't it?
Yeah yeah

0:20:32.920,0:20:38.390
In fact 3.30 am is the time most people die
in their sleep.

0:20:38.390,0:20:44.930
And that's exactly the time that laying on
a flat bed causes a 2 degree drop in body

0:20:44.930,0:20:49.110
temperature.
Now when we measured our mouth temperature

0:20:49.110,0:20:54.310
exactly the same as they did for the two degree
drop in healthy people.

0:20:54.310,0:20:58.450
What we found was that we didn't get that
two degree drop when we were on an inclined

0:20:58.450,0:21:02.270
bed.
Our body temperature remained stable.

0:21:02.270,0:21:08.260
Which was fascinating.
And if we go back, the Doctors know exactly

0:21:08.260,0:21:15.850
what is going on here.
Doctor Richard Asher in 1942, he wrote:

0:21:15.850,0:21:21.240
Look at the patient ling alone in his bed
What a pathetic picture he makes

0:21:21.240,0:21:26.660
The blood clotting in his veins
The lime draining from his bones

0:21:26.660,0:21:30.850
The scybola stacking up in his colon
The flesh rotting from his seat

0:21:30.850,0:21:36.770
The urine leaking from his distended bladder
and the spark evaporating from his soul

0:21:36.770,0:21:41.400
Teach us to live that we may dread unnecessary
time in bed

0:21:41.400,0:21:49.120
Get people up and we may save patients from
an early

0:21:49.120,0:21:53.320
grave.
1942 and yet Hospitals are still assessed

0:21:53.320,0:21:57.420
on how many beds they have?
Yeah

0:21:57.420,0:22:01.550
I have some horror stories as well with my
own Father

0:22:01.550,0:22:10.190
In a coma in hospital. I had fought tooth
and nail to get his bed on an angle.

0:22:10.190,0:22:14.360
They told us he had hours to live, he had
pancreatic cancer.

0:22:14.360,0:22:21.610
Which had spread from the gall bladder and
he was in a coma, his legs were massive, again

0:22:21.610,0:22:30.010
back to the oedema, they had to cut his pyjamas
because they were so tight.

0:22:30.010,0:22:36.690
The urine in his catheter was brown and blood
stained and thick like tar. We were told he

0:22:36.690,0:22:41.400
had multiple organ failure and that he only
had hours to live.

0:22:41.400,0:22:45.680
I said look you have got to tilt this bed!
First of all they refused, thinking that I

0:22:45.680,0:22:52.680
was daft and then finally they gave up when
I got a little bit angry and tilted his bed

0:22:52.680,0:22:55.950
and every time I turned my back, they would
put the bed back down again.

0:22:55.950,0:23:04.710
But he came out of his coma and his urine
started to run clear within hours, his organs

0:23:04.710,0:23:11.400
started functioning again and the yellowness
was going from his skin. So this was quite

0:23:11.400,0:23:16.660
remarkable and yet they kept trying to put
the bed back flat.

0:23:16.660,0:23:22.910
He walked out of that hospital, though he
had a stent operation to ease the pressure

0:23:22.910,0:23:28.940
in his gall bladder and he enjoyed another
8 months of life when he was given hours to

0:23:28.940,0:23:31.800
live.
Unfortunately the pancreatic cancer got the

0:23:31.800,0:23:37.440
better of him, and no amount of education
from me about changing his diet seemed to

0:23:37.440,0:23:45.080
sink in. You know he still enjoyed his bacon
sandwich and his glass of whisky.

0:23:45.080,0:23:50.910
You know I loved that guy, he was amazing
and a hard man as well, he never took so much

0:23:50.910,0:23:55.890
as a paracetamol for pain while he was in
that hospital.

0:23:55.890,0:24:01.580
Yeah yeah, I mean what you are expressing
here must have been infuriating to find that

0:24:01.580,0:24:05.390
they come in behind your back and changing
things.

0:24:05.390,0:24:10.400
Yes
I mean obviously they are trying to protect

0:24:10.400,0:24:16.410
their jobs to some extent, not really caring
for the patient and they are clearly seeing

0:24:16.410,0:24:18.550
that it was effective what you were doing.
But

0:24:18.550,0:24:23.670
They are working from a book Steve, that's
the problem, and if there are mistakes in

0:24:23.670,0:24:29.660
that book they will keep repeating the mistakes
Yes yes Because that's the way it is done

0:24:29.660,0:24:33.290
if you like.
Yes. that's the way they were taught in Med

0:24:33.290,0:24:36.970
School.
Yes yes but it is sad, I really think that

0:24:36.970,0:24:44.250
that was very sad and on this earth that people
can see things and do things in front of their

0:24:44.250,0:24:49.610
eyes and plain just turn around and refuse
to look at it. You know.

0:24:49.610,0:24:53.730
Yes
Well we have touched on a few things there

0:24:53.730,0:25:02.380
about the dangers of bed rest. What happens
with the heart when you sleep on an inclined

0:25:02.380,0:25:05.680
bed?
Well the heart rate decreases by 10 to 12

0:25:05.680,0:25:11.840
beats per minute and your respiration rate
decreases by 4 to 5 breaths per minute. Yet

0:25:11.840,0:25:18.810
your circulation increases. Now I tested this
on sleeping dogs, 3 bull terriers to be honest,

0:25:18.810,0:25:26.130
who have no problem sleeping. I tested their
heart rate and respiration rate just against

0:25:26.130,0:25:32.720
a stop watch, while they were sleeping flat
and then while they were sleeping on an incline.

0:25:32.720,0:25:38.480
And their reductions were exactly the same
a decrease in heart rate by 10 to 12 beats

0:25:38.480,0:25:44.240
per minute and in respiration rate by 4 to
5 breaths per minute. So clearly you know

0:25:44.240,0:25:48.220
we are dealing with something that is not
just human specific but it goes right across

0:25:48.220,0:25:55.330
the animal world as well.
I can verify that. I can verify that to be

0:25:55.330,0:25:59.010
right as I have a oxymeter as I was speaking
to you that you put on your finger and measures

0:25:59.010,0:26:06.230
your heart rate and your blood gases. I may
be going a little bit out of my dealings with

0:26:06.230,0:26:13.150
the inclined bed but the times I have managed
to get into bed and once I have become relaxed

0:26:13.150,0:26:18.290
in bed, my heart rate is generally about the
same as my bloods so if my bloods are about

0:26:18.290,0:26:27.290
95, my heart rate generally is 95 and since
I inclined the bed I have been getting my

0:26:27.290,0:26:32.510
bloods 95 and my heart rate as been about
85, so I can verify what you are saying there

0:26:32.510,0:26:37.640
it is absolutely true and I have never discussed
that before as we have been chatting, it is

0:26:37.640,0:26:40.740
absolutely right that my heart rate dropped
by 10 beats per minute.

0:26:40.740,0:26:45.220
The other thing that we found was that we
measured the density of our urine because

0:26:45.220,0:26:51.120
as I said earlier, the kidneys are filtering
out the salts and other materials from the

0:26:51.120,0:26:57.780
blood, so I would expect that if we are on
an incline to see a change in urine density.

0:26:57.780,0:27:04.620
Now we measured it using a simple hydrometer,
the type you would use in beer making. And

0:27:04.620,0:27:13.050
what we found was that the flat bed rest caused
the urine density to decrease over and above

0:27:13.050,0:27:18.700
normal daily activity, in other words the
kidneys are not functioning properly.

0:27:18.700,0:27:24.730
Head down bed rest caused the urine density
to drop down to near water levels, in other

0:27:24.730,0:27:29.550
words no salts were being erected from the
bladder and that when we raised the head end

0:27:29.550,0:27:36.210
of the bed we found that the urine readings
went up and became stronger and more dense.

0:27:36.210,0:27:46.500
I was just clocking the time there Andrew
and we are getting to about 25 minutes to.

0:27:46.500,0:27:51.660
Just one question about when you were talking
about the density of your urine, would keeping

0:27:51.660,0:27:57.770
properly hydrated be the optimum way of improving
your chances of it doing something for you?

0:27:57.770,0:28:00.940
Yes
Or is there something else we can do to help?

0:28:00.940,0:28:06.730
Yes I have a bottle of water by the side of
the bed and advocate that people should be

0:28:06.730,0:28:12.200
drinking more water on inclined bed therapy.
Because there is going to be a huge detox

0:28:12.200,0:28:18.390
going on when you first tilt your bed so you
need to replace the excess fluids that we

0:28:18.390,0:28:26.270
are evaporating and excreting in the urine,
which is logical, it makes sense, we should

0:28:26.270,0:28:31.870
all be drinking more water anyway.
So yes and if it means having to get out of

0:28:31.870,0:28:41.400
bed in the night to have a wee, being upright
is a great thing, you know, and in fact Joan

0:28:41.400,0:28:49.660
Vernikos, who is the former head of life sciences
in NASA advocates that people. especially

0:28:49.660,0:28:54.710
the elderly should stand every 20 minutes
and she is saying that sitting down is killing

0:28:54.710,0:29:00.280
us and that bed rest is killing us.
So make a point of standing every 20 minutes

0:29:00.280,0:29:05.290
if only for a couple of minutes, which I find
fascinating.

0:29:05.290,0:29:12.200
What she did was, there was an 82 year old,
I think he was 82 or 92 year old who was in

0:29:12.200,0:29:21.400
the same job at NASA and he was in a wheel
chair and she advised him during her seminar

0:29:21.400,0:29:29.610
to actually get out of the wheelchair and
stand every 20 minutes. When he was visited

0:29:29.610,0:29:36.480
by someone who got back to Joan , said that
he actually served them their meal and he

0:29:36.480,0:29:43.450
wasn't in a wheelchair any more. So that's
just standing up and in fact if we take gravity

0:29:43.450,0:29:52.070
away all together, which is with astronauts
in space, the ageing process is accelerated

0:29:52.070,0:30:00.860
by over 10% than it is here on Earth.. 10
times faster tan it is here on Earth. You

0:30:00.860,0:30:08.470
get massive bone de-calcification, osteoporosis,
neurological damage, kidney stones, gall stones,

0:30:08.470,0:30:17.070
bladder stones, visual disturbances, changes
in the fluid, your skin becomes much thinner

0:30:17.070,0:30:26.670
and ages much faster in space and NASA have
studied the effects of flat bed rest and head

0:30:26.670,0:30:33.520
down bed rest and in fact they are paying
people $17,000 dollars just to sleep or stay

0:30:33.520,0:30:43.220
in a bed that is tilted down by six degrees.
They are doing this to actually mimic what

0:30:43.220,0:30:50.280
happens in space, so they are ageing these
people ten times faster than if they were

0:30:50.280,0:30:58.630
having normal daily activity. So again the
mirror there is the bed rest is used to reflect

0:30:58.630,0:31:04.930
what happens to the body when we travel in
micro gravity in space.

0:31:04.930,0:31:10.740
Humm hmm you couldn't pay me that amount of
money.

0:31:10.740,0:31:11.910
No no.

0:31:11.910,0:31:14.230
Hello Andrew
Hi David

0:31:14.230,0:31:16.250
how are you?
I'm fine thank you

0:31:16.250,0:31:23.050
Hi David
Is that Steve?

0:31:23.050,0:31:25.450
It is
Hi Steve

0:31:25.450,0:31:32.400
You are live on awake radio and I was going
to go for a tune but decided to call you in

0:31:32.400,0:31:34.030
welcome to awake
Thank you

0:31:34.030,0:31:41.050
Where are you talking from?
I'm a Scotsman living in Ireland

0:31:41.050,0:31:49.720
We go out all around the World, America Australia
South Africa, the Whole shooting match so

0:31:49.720,0:31:53.760
to speak
You are from America I believe?

0:31:53.760,0:32:00.370
No I am a Yorkshire man
Right, I should have recognised that accent.

0:32:00.370,0:32:08.340
I have been to Ireland and enjoyed it I have
been down to Devon where Andrew lives.

0:32:08.340,0:32:20.860
I met Andrew around 1993 I think
I think it was a bout 1995 96

0:32:20.860,0:32:23.590
95 96 right Time flies
It does

0:32:23.590,0:32:31.420
So I am assuming that you have tried the inclined
bed therapy David?

0:32:31.420,0:32:40.680
Yes well when I first met Andrew he mentioned
about the inclined bed and all of his research

0:32:40.680,0:32:51.010
with trees and things like that and the circulation
of nature and I decided to must have been

0:32:51.010,0:33:00.620
95 96 to buy an inclined bed off him and within
a few months he was so generous him and his

0:33:00.620,0:33:09.970
wife drove 350 miles north up to where I lived
and delivered the bed.

0:33:09.970,0:33:18.610
I was very grateful at the time.
I still am because I have slept on that bed

0:33:18.610,0:33:30.240
ever since and it took a while of perseverance
to adjust myself to it and it certainly paid

0:33:30.240,0:33:37.480
off.
Could I ask what benefits you have attained

0:33:37.480,0:33:46.050
from it?
Well prior to meeting Andrew I had been an

0:33:46.050,0:33:54.340
instrument engineer working off shore almost
24 hours 7 days a week

0:33:54.340,0:34:04.170
In fact it was the disaster of Piper Alpha
in 1989 that decided me to chuck my construction

0:34:04.170,0:34:12.760
boots in, but at the time I was suffering
of all the following medical conditions.

0:34:12.760,0:34:20.510
Keratitis, which is an irritation of the eye
which doctors did not know how to cure it.

0:34:20.510,0:34:26.590
Tinnitus which they couldn't treat at the
time. Deafness because I had been working

0:34:26.590,0:34:39.659
off shore in a very noisy environment and
I also had a prolapsed disc for about maybe

0:34:39.659,0:34:48.610
20 years before I met Andrew.
That produced sciatica and by the time I met

0:34:48.610,0:34:59.600
Andrew I had arthritis of the spine and also
my fingers I couldn't bear to pick anything

0:34:59.600,0:35:16.240
up. In fact I used to play the piano and I
couldn't bear to touch the notes with my fingers.

0:35:16.240,0:35:25.640
Since then, having persevered with the inclined
bed six inches which Andrew made, all of those

0:35:25.640,0:35:32.450
conditions have virtually gone.
To be quite truthful, I have never needed

0:35:32.450,0:35:42.940
to see any doctors or medical physicians since
2001 and since that day I have never taken

0:35:42.940,0:35:52.300
any medical prescriptions or anything like
that whatsoever. It has been a gradual process

0:35:52.300,0:36:01.200
within my body. You can't have an agenda when
you start laying on an inclined bed, you are

0:36:01.200,0:36:07.770
just wasting your own time having an agenda,
thinking that yes I am going to get better

0:36:07.770,0:36:16.340
tomorrow or the next week or cure all ills
and things like that.

0:36:16.340,0:36:32.060
You have got to maintain a good life and sleep
on this inclined bed. And if you can persevere

0:36:32.060,0:36:37.190
it's going to be well worth it.
Sure sure

0:36:37.190,0:36:45.410
And what do you think that healed David Andrew?
What would be your assumption of it?

0:36:45.410,0:36:54.980
Well, David is one case of many and over 20
years I have heard many many cases like David's.

0:36:54.980,0:37:01.440
It seems to identify that the flat bed was
actually the cause of many of the problems,

0:37:01.440,0:37:07.350
possibly as he mentioned working on the rigs
being very damp as we discussed early a very

0:37:07.350,0:37:16.110
damp climate will have a double whammy affect,
in fact many of the people that work in the

0:37:16.110,0:37:22.970
fishing an the boats and trawlers you see
them walking around in the harbour areas and

0:37:22.970,0:37:32.240
they are crippled up with severe problems
with the skeletal frame, arthritis, doubled

0:37:32.240,0:37:42.260
over and not a great job like David's job.
So if we have identified that the flat bed

0:37:42.260,0:37:47.369
could have been the cause and if we take the
flat bed out of the equation we should all

0:37:47.369,0:37:50.700
get better.
I am not saying it is a cure all for everyone

0:37:50.700,0:38:01.860
but I have had success with spinal cord injury,
Parkinson's multiple sclerosis, even a problem

0:38:01.860,0:38:08.369
with human fertility believe it or not.
Influenza, chicken pox, so it boosts the immune

0:38:08.369,0:38:14.170
system as well. We tend not to get as ill
as we did when we slept on a flat bed, you

0:38:14.170,0:38:18.869
know if you get Man-flu the man usually lays
down flat and gets very ill

0:38:18.869,0:38:23.020
Ha ha ha
The wife doesn't get man-flu because she is

0:38:23.020,0:38:28.840
too busy running around looking after the
husband, so they are always upright and they

0:38:28.840,0:38:32.930
tend not to get as ill as the men and in fact
if we go back to the sweating sickness it

0:38:32.930,0:38:36.760
was probably the men that died more-so than
the women.

0:38:36.760,0:38:42.540
Ha ha ha
Talking about man flu and colds, I can't remember

0:38:42.540,0:38:49.160
how many years it has been since I had such
an event

0:38:49.160,0:38:54.230
Yes
Well David thank you very much for chipping

0:38:54.230,0:38:55.770
in
Thank you

0:38:55.770,0:39:04.980
You are more than welcome my friend
For me it tends to recycle your body energies

0:39:04.980,0:39:12.110
down to your feet more efficiently no matter
what salts, no matter what chemicals you have

0:39:12.110,0:39:18.180
got in your body everything has to be emitted
from your body and from your feet eventually

0:39:18.180,0:39:23.640
and your toes
It seems to do what I have just explained

0:39:23.640,0:39:37.330
Well I suppose that 
your circulation is your healing energy and
that if it is able to get to everything then

0:39:37.330,0:39:42.310
it's obviously going to heal.
Well without circulation we are dead.

0:39:42.310,0:39:46.190
Yeah yeah yeah
Fascinating fascinating

0:39:46.190,0:39:53.580
I will play devils advocate just for one second
David. Is there anything that you reckon may

0:39:53.580,0:39:58.310
have helped your healing process other than
the inclined bed therapy?

0:39:58.310,0:40:07.060
Well I have never drunk alcohol for about
four or five years now and never smoked. Well

0:40:07.060,0:40:19.200
put it this way I smoked when I was about
30 for about 4 years and then I knocked it

0:40:19.200,0:40:24.340
off.
That's erm 45 years ago ha ha

0:40:24.340,0:40:30.180
So effectively all you have done is pretty
much maintained a healthy diet and inclined

0:40:30.180,0:40:35.609
bed therapy and that has been it?
In fact when I stopped working offshore I

0:40:35.609,0:40:44.950
was over 15 stone in weight and because of
all the good food that they supply to you

0:40:44.950,0:40:58.920
in the meals off shore. That 15 stones is
now slimmed down to about 11 and a half stones

0:40:58.920,0:41:05.890
in the last 20 odd years.
And I have just maintained that weight and

0:41:05.890,0:41:17.990
I enjoy my eating so it must be the bed.
I have just made contact with Terri would

0:41:17.990,0:41:22.030
you like to maybe bring Terri in a minute?
Yes please

0:41:22.030,0:41:26.990
Terri's daughter Steve, took one of my experiments
to school

0:41:26.990,0:41:29.390
Oh yeah
Hmm hmm

0:41:29.390,0:41:35.850
And entered it into to the, what did you call
it Terri, like a science fair was it?

0:41:35.850,0:41:42.080
A science fair, right
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0:41:42.080,0:41:47.510
Welcome back to Awake radio folks and when
I started the show I never mentioned any of

0:41:47.510,0:41:53.570
our affiliates so I will give them a quick
mention and I will get Andrew to mention his

0:41:53.570,0:41:59.000
website as well
So Obviously Awake U.S. and Awake Australia

0:41:59.000,0:42:07.030
and Turtle Island News Shazis Radio dot come
and these changing times. People for people

0:42:07.030,0:42:15.190
which used to be Scottish sovereigns and united
we strike and well spirit radio, Just us radio

0:42:15.190,0:42:21.560
and I'm sure I have forgotten some of you
guys, oh no ha ha but where ever you are listening

0:42:21.560,0:42:26.170
whatever your platform you are listening from
guys I hope you are finding this information

0:42:26.170,0:42:32.040
very valid and very useful and you now understand
it

0:42:32.040,0:42:37.190
Some subjects are not always the most interesting
nut certainly for me this is an interesting

0:42:37.190,0:42:42.500
subject it is something that is very very
cheap and it's not going to cost you a great

0:42:42.500,0:42:48.750
deal of money and it's something as Andrew
said is repeatable and you know I think it's

0:42:48.750,0:42:55.290
well worth having a go to be honest.
So Andrew welcome back again and

0:42:55.290,0:43:00.830
Thank you Steven
And Terri as joined us from the good old US

0:43:00.830,0:43:07.080
of A which will please a lot of our listeners.
Hello everyone

0:43:07.080,0:43:17.880
So Terri would you like to give us a little
introduction to your inclined bed therapy?

0:43:17.880,0:43:26.230
I found the website talked about the inclined
bed therapy and I was new to multiple sclerosis

0:43:26.230,0:43:34.760
and I didn't take any medication yet for the
multiple sclerosis and I found this information

0:43:34.760,0:43:42.700
and I thought huh you want somebody to try
something new. I will be happy to try that.

0:43:42.700,0:43:48.220
Didn't involve any needles or pain or medication
and didn't cost me anything, yeah I was willing

0:43:48.220,0:43:56.790
to give it a try and I had pain in my left
thigh all of the time and I thought well Betty

0:43:56.790,0:44:02.119
Iams a nice woman though I have never met
her, she suggested this therapy and said it

0:44:02.119,0:44:08.920
worked for her so I would give it a try.
And I used some books underneath the frame

0:44:08.920,0:44:13.600
of my bed and I would just give it a try,
he said six inches higher than your feet,

0:44:13.600,0:44:19.450
Ok I can do maths, I can measure and so I
put the books under my bed and slept that

0:44:19.450,0:44:24.660
way one night and though huh the pain's gone
and my husband said I hate it so I said alight

0:44:24.660,0:44:28.350
I will take the books out again.
The pain came back.

0:44:28.350,0:44:32.970
I said the couch is out there I am sleeping
with the bed up and we have done it ever since.

0:44:32.970,0:44:38.840
And that was back in 1998
So I have been sleeping that way ever since

0:44:38.840,0:44:43.140
and my multiple sclerosis does not give me
any trouble, I have never taken any drugs

0:44:43.140,0:44:50.680
or anything injectable or anything cancer
causing. I never take any drugs just the inclined

0:44:50.680,0:44:58.940
bed has served me well since 1998.
That's a good record. I believe you had an

0:44:58.940,0:45:06.270
interesting conversation with your neurologist?
Yes, The neurologist recently told me that

0:45:06.270,0:45:12.800
you don't really need to come back to see
me again your better. I have never seen anyone

0:45:12.800,0:45:18.770
get better, it is not a disease that is supposed
to get better he said don't bother to come

0:45:18.770,0:45:22.400
back ha ha
ha ha ha ha Brilliant

0:45:22.400,0:45:26.390
I have never been happier to fire a doctor
in my life.

0:45:26.390,0:45:30.240
Brilliant brilliant
One thing I noticed with David and yourself

0:45:30.240,0:45:35.590
that has been sort of late 90's that you have
been doing inclined bed therapy so that's

0:45:35.590,0:45:39.700
quite some time
Hmm hmm

0:45:39.700,0:45:47.980
Did it take some time? How long did it take
for you to get a response or reaction with

0:45:47.980,0:45:55.670
it any idea?
I had mine immediately because I had the pain

0:45:55.670,0:46:02.800
and then it was gone and that is how multiple
sclerosis works it comes and goes but I had

0:46:02.800,0:46:11.280
instant relief from the pain in my leg and
I had no reason to think that this isn't working.

0:46:11.280,0:46:17.320
Brilliant Yeah
Since then I have had amalgams removed from

0:46:17.320,0:46:22.869
my teeth and my doctor not my neurologist
this is a different doctor who said I think

0:46:22.869,0:46:28.520
you have had mercury poisoning as well as
your multiple sclerosis so with the amalgams

0:46:28.520,0:46:36.210
removed from my teeth I think I have eliminated
mercury poisoning from my system. I still

0:46:36.210,0:46:40.070
have had no problems with multiple sclerosis
and I have tried sleeping flat on a vacation

0:46:40.070,0:46:46.010
when I couldn't sleep inclined and I hated
it, my husband said he hated it too and even

0:46:46.010,0:46:51.310
though he on one hand hates sliding down on
the bed on the other hand he can't sleep flat

0:46:51.310,0:46:52.910
now. ha ha
ha ha

0:46:52.910,0:46:57.040
He is a fireman so occasionally he has to
go to the fire-station to sleep and he don't

0:46:57.040,0:47:02.060
sleep good there, it's too much bother to
lift the bed up there.

0:47:02.060,0:47:10.890
Although we just use PVC pipe and put it under
the leg of the bed and that's how we raise

0:47:10.890,0:47:13.190
our bed, the book thing didn't really work
to well.

0:47:13.190,0:47:16.240
Yeah that's a great idea.
Yeah

0:47:16.240,0:47:23.970
Depending on where we go my family have bricks
for me to use and that works for me if I at

0:47:23.970,0:47:30.480
their house I have bricks. Whatever, I have
gone on a mission trip to Trinidad and we

0:47:30.480,0:47:36.240
took pvc pipe on the trip to Trinidad and
I raised the bed there and had some rocks

0:47:36.240,0:47:40.770
to help put underneath it but the pvc pipe
seems to work really well.

0:47:40.770,0:47:45.869
Brilliant brilliant
It's easy to cut and you can make it whatever

0:47:45.869,0:47:53.780
length you want.
Yes that sounds a very simplistic way yeas

0:47:53.780,0:48:01.570
I am all about simple things and blood .
We have a question in the chat which refers

0:48:01.570,0:48:09.210
to the bed as well which clearly enjoyed you
mentioning about sliding down the bed and

0:48:09.210,0:48:15.430
said if the bed is tilted that much how does
one stay on it without sliding to the end?

0:48:15.430,0:48:24.820
My bed is tilted 4 inches and I have had constantly
to stop myself from going to the bottom of

0:48:24.820,0:48:29.090
the bed.
What you can do there is to wrap an old duvet

0:48:29.090,0:48:35.340
if you have a spare duvet or a blanket, wrap
it tightly around the mattress and then put

0:48:35.340,0:48:42.040
your top sheet on and that extra friction
that you get from the duvet or the blanket

0:48:42.040,0:48:48.210
prevents the slipping.
Very smart thinking that

0:48:48.210,0:48:55.480
Well these are some of the tips that many
people who have been helped have handed over.

0:48:55.480,0:49:05.750
What Terri was saying there about an instant
reaction a lady, she's an ex nurse and she

0:49:05.750,0:49:11.630
has a condition called psoriatic arthritis
and she would wake up every morning racked

0:49:11.630,0:49:17.530
with pain and she admitted to me that a while
back, quite a few years back that she was

0:49:17.530,0:49:22.980
ready for a wheelchair. Life for her was a
real struggle, she would immerse her hands

0:49:22.980,0:49:26.900
in hot water trying to get her hands to move
and after about a hour and a half of pain

0:49:26.900,0:49:32.090
she would be able to move her hands. She ran
a guest house at the time so it was a real

0:49:32.090,0:49:39.010
struggle for her.
She tilted her bed and got up the next morning

0:49:39.010,0:49:43.550
and she didn't need to immerse her hands in
water they worked. So that was from one night

0:49:43.550,0:49:48.119
sleeping on an angled bed.
Brilliant

0:49:48.119,0:49:53.730
To this date she is a very good friend of
ours now, her psoriasis has completely gone,

0:49:53.730,0:50:02.490
she has no more pain in her joints, she can
walk miles it's amazing.

0:50:02.490,0:50:10.609
And another lady with psoriasis, took a series
of photographs and we actually saw all of

0:50:10.609,0:50:16.390
the changes in her skin.
She went to virtually having no psoriasis

0:50:16.390,0:50:21.260
with photographic evidence.
It's absolutely brilliant

0:50:21.260,0:50:32.260
You know if you stop to think, like said at
the start of this, who was the person that

0:50:32.260,0:50:35.210
determined that the whole human race should
sleep flat?

0:50:35.210,0:50:41.190
When animals seldom sleep flat
You know if you watch cows and sheep in the

0:50:41.190,0:50:46.310
field and there is a hillside they will all
be facing up the hill when they are laying

0:50:46.310,0:50:50.220
down.
Chimps sleep in trees and those trees are

0:50:50.220,0:50:54.230
not flat.
Gorillas will lean up against a tree. Even

0:50:54.230,0:51:00.760
alligators and crocodiles and snake alter
their posture, they don't stay flat for long.

0:51:00.760,0:51:08.470
An alligator will lower it's head to cool
it's temperature and raise it's head to increase

0:51:08.470,0:51:16.660
it's temperature and so do lizards in an aquarium,
vivarium. You know and birds, many birds will

0:51:16.660,0:51:22.359
sleep standing up, some horses will sleep
standing up.

0:51:22.359,0:51:30.599
I mean effectively all I had ever known about
that is if you are camping, don't sleep with

0:51:30.599,0:51:36.460
your head down the slope because your head
fills up with water if you like a balloon

0:51:36.460,0:51:41.470
so that was the only thing I'd ever thought
about that.

0:51:41.470,0:51:46.440
I have some feed back from people that camp
out a lot and they say that they try and pitch

0:51:46.440,0:51:53.210
the tent so that there is a slight incline
and they actually feel warmer. Which is another

0:51:53.210,0:51:58.460
thing that we have found is that the sloping
bed increases your metabolism. If you suffer

0:51:58.460,0:52:03.810
with cold hands and cold feet, all of a sudden
you get nice warm hands and nice warm feet

0:52:03.810,0:52:11.670
in bed, which indicates your circulation has
improved and your metabolism has improved.

0:52:11.670,0:52:18.960
My Granddaughter is three now, but since she
has been born she has had trouble with reflux,

0:52:18.960,0:52:23.480
acid reflux and the babies sleep is not fine
because all she was doing is crying.

0:52:23.480,0:52:28.220
And my Daughter is the one that did Andrew's
study and we tried to do the circulation thing

0:52:28.220,0:52:33.990
in the science fair thing and so my daughter
understands his theory and she was quick to

0:52:33.990,0:52:40.130
put a block or something under the crib to
make sure that she is inclined and that helped

0:52:40.130,0:52:43.500
her acid reflux tremendously.
Brilliant

0:52:43.500,0:52:47.500
And my husband also suffers from that acid
reflux disorder and we put our bed up, he

0:52:47.500,0:52:53.820
doesn't have that problem any more.
It is interesting, my great grandmother slept

0:52:53.820,0:52:59.440
with her bed inclined and I am guessing that
she had an acid problem and that it helped

0:52:59.440,0:53:09.230
her stomach. I was four years old I am 51
now. She was sleeping with her bed inclined

0:53:09.230,0:53:13.020
and we didn't know anything about Andrew's
study then so it must have been something

0:53:13.020,0:53:17.570
that people do.
Yes

0:53:17.570,0:53:20.540
Somewhere along the line, somebody had the
idea that we should sleep with the head of

0:53:20.540,0:53:25.849
our bed up so that out tummy's don't hurt.
Yes

0:53:25.849,0:53:32.130
The medical profession will also use it for
respiratory failure, they will raise people's

0:53:32.130,0:53:37.369
beds at the head end but they generally sit
people up and that is not the same as an inclined

0:53:37.369,0:53:38.180
bed.
No

0:53:38.180,0:53:43.540
A lot of people think that being sat up in
bed is the same. " I have got lot's of pillows

0:53:43.540,0:53:49.109
so I am already doing it. No your not!
If you are sitting up you are actually preventing

0:53:49.109,0:53:55.040
yourself from laying on your sides comfortably,
so you are always going to be laying on your

0:53:55.040,0:53:59.220
back and that's not good being in the same
position every night.

0:53:59.220,0:54:04.530
You need to be able to rotate.
That was actually a question I meant to ask

0:54:04.530,0:54:07.090
you.
Does it matter about laying on your side or

0:54:07.090,0:54:11.040
on your back?
Not at all not at all. On your back is probably

0:54:11.040,0:54:16.750
the worst for oxygenation. On your side is
going to be better.

0:54:16.750,0:54:21.890
And in fact there is some research that prone
position or laying on your tummy improves

0:54:21.890,0:54:27.780
the effectiveness of the lungs, which is a
little bit disturbing when mothers are told

0:54:27.780,0:54:30.520
to put the baby flat on their backs
Right

0:54:30.520,0:54:36.220
Well yeah they switch that up every now and
again and the current thing is they should

0:54:36.220,0:54:37.430
be on their sides.
Yes

0:54:37.430,0:54:41.930
My Granddaughter was told her baby should
be on her side.

0:54:41.930,0:54:44.290
Yes, I have been saying this for years. Ha
ha ha

0:54:44.290,0:54:48.780
In fact I had a meeting with Dr Shireen Chantler
MA PhD from the Foundation For Sudden Infant

0:54:48.780,0:54:54.950
Death Syndrome at her home in London and she
saw my experiments she heard my explanation,

0:54:54.950,0:54:58.000
she turned around to me and she looked me
in the face and said; My god you have solved

0:54:58.000,0:55:03.060
it. I said what do you mean by that. She said
you have solved sudden infant death syndrome.

0:55:03.060,0:55:09.119
That's right
I then said so we can now tell mothers and

0:55:09.119,0:55:15.510
fathers to put their babies on an angle?
Oh no it's not that simple.

0:55:15.510,0:55:18.270
Of course it is.
Of course it is.

0:55:18.270,0:55:25.490
You know in fact there is a new movement called
Kangaroo baby care, where the parents never

0:55:25.490,0:55:33.119
put their babies flat down in a bed, They
have them up against themselves, they take

0:55:33.119,0:55:39.400
it in turns, the Husband picks the baby up,
the mother picks the baby up, they don't put

0:55:39.400,0:55:44.250
that baby down.
I couldn't do that forever but at some point

0:55:44.250,0:55:47.900
you have got to put the baby down.
Well yes but for short periods of time I should

0:55:47.900,0:55:56.010
imagine its ok. But it's not ok to leave a
baby flat for all those hour

0:55:56.010,0:56:01.859
But it is interesting that my Daughter who
did the experiment realised that yes that's

0:56:01.859,0:56:04.910
what she wants to do with her babe.
Fantastic

0:56:04.910,0:56:15.810
Well there was an interesting one with human
fertility, a member of the family a lady was

0:56:15.810,0:56:27.430
having trouble with IVF In-vitro fertilization.
She had spent a fortune, she couldn't conceive.

0:56:27.430,0:56:36.830
And she gave up, so I convinced her to put
the bed on an angle and without IVF she had

0:56:36.830,0:56:39.820
a baby.
Congratulations

0:56:39.820,0:56:49.950
It's fascinating and if we look in space travel
they have actually observed the way sperm

0:56:49.950,0:56:59.490
swims and it loses it's motility when it is
in zero well micro-gravity. So they are saying

0:56:59.490,0:57:13.220
now the latest buz is that long term space
flight would or could make some people sterile.

0:57:13.220,0:57:21.010
Didn't you say Andrew that there was someone
that had significant improvements with quadriplegic

0:57:21.010,0:57:30.890
or paraplegic that could walk again?
Yes that was John Cann, he was a fantastic

0:57:30.890,0:57:38.589
guy, he has passed away john has, he died
at 76 years of age. He had trouble with his

0:57:38.589,0:57:46.200
medication, I won't go into the details but
it was not related to the sloping bed. And

0:57:46.200,0:57:54.609
he was paralysed for 10 and a half years I
think it was. He was filmed by Carlton Television

0:57:54.609,0:58:01.740
News. He got out of his wheel chair and he
walked on Carlton Television news. You can

0:58:01.740,0:58:07.839
see his feet moving correctly and his knees
lifting it was incredible, he walked between

0:58:07.839,0:58:14.250
two parallel bars and he walked to one end
of the bars. I had assembled the bars at his

0:58:14.250,0:58:18.050
home and turned around and walked back in
front of the cameras.

0:58:18.050,0:58:23.690
I will always remember Tim Iredale saying,
he was the news reporter, He said this is

0:58:23.690,0:58:29.270
one of those days you will always remember
where you were. It is an absolute pleasure

0:58:29.270,0:58:35.940
watching this, seeing you working with these
people is incredible.

0:58:35.940,0:58:39.130
How long did it take it take him to sleep
inclined before he could do that?

0:58:39.130,0:58:44.920
I forget, I haven't got the notes with me
now but it took quite a while, probably took

0:58:44.920,0:58:49.800
over a year.
I was trying to remember, I think I read it

0:58:49.800,0:58:51.560
it was about a year.
Yes

0:58:51.560,0:58:56.530
But you see John was not by any means the
first, in fact I have just uploaded the case

0:58:56.530,0:59:09.390
histories onto the website at http://inclinedbedtherapy.com
And it's under my research tab under the main

0:59:09.390,0:59:15.650
menu, you will see the spinal cord injury
case histories that I have uploaded.

0:59:15.650,0:59:25.570
The first two, Julian Boustead and John Mason
both complete spinal cord injuries, incredible

0:59:25.570,0:59:34.250
results with both of these guys. That then
led on to helping more people with spinal

0:59:34.250,0:59:44.310
cord injuries. But I tried on the Carecure
forum to introduce the theory and many people

0:59:44.310,0:59:50.460
there were shooting me down in flames but
a few people decided to give it a try and

0:59:50.460,0:59:55.310
when they come back and started to report
that they were improving also, they were also

0:59:55.310,1:00:01.150
ridiculed and chased off the website and they
had been there for years and friends of these

1:00:01.150,1:00:04.830
people.
And some even accused me that I had invented

1:00:04.830,1:00:10.330
these people, so to do that I would have had
to have gone there 4 or 5 or 6 years before

1:00:10.330,1:00:18.050
and spent months and months and months of
posts to different people on the pretext of

1:00:18.050,1:00:20.890
trying to introduce people who were showing
results?

1:00:20.890,1:00:25.710
It was ridicules but they would rather believe
that than that putting two blocks of wood

1:00:25.710,1:00:31.900
under the bed would out smart the people that
were involved in spinal cord research?

1:00:31.900,1:00:36.690
Well in reality I can understand that because
I must admit that when I first saw your show

1:00:36.690,1:00:42.560
with Clive De Carle it was something that
and I do praise myself for keeping an open

1:00:42.560,1:00:47.130
mind when I seen it, I thought that would
not really be worth watching and you know

1:00:47.130,1:00:54.589
but when I did, it didn't half hit me right
between the eyes. You shouldn't rule anything

1:00:54.589,1:00:57.920
out, you should look in and see and become
informed I think

1:00:57.920,1:01:03.160
Never judge a book by it's cover.
Yeah exactly

1:01:03.160,1:01:06.839
And the best part about this whole thing is
that no one is making any money on it, which

1:01:06.839,1:01:11.960
is unfortunate for Andrew but no one is making
any money on it and this is something you

1:01:11.960,1:01:16.609
can try and if you don't like it don't do
it but it doesn't hurt give it a try.

1:01:16.609,1:01:23.730
Yes that's a good point
It doesn't harm you to try it in the least

1:01:23.730,1:01:27.349
and you might discover something that you
didn't even expect I mean one of the best

1:01:27.349,1:01:33.290
things about it is it made my nails better
than they were before, I mean really? I mean

1:01:33.290,1:01:37.550
I'm a woman and it matters to me but something
silly like that I mean your hair, your nails

1:01:37.550,1:01:43.460
that improving because your circulating all
of those minerals in your system

1:01:43.460,1:01:53.270
Yes
Yes it did me Terri, I had siatica of the

1:01:53.270,1:02:00.490
nerves and things like that, I found the nails
were actually stronger and growing faster

1:02:00.490,1:02:01.930
That's right
Right

1:02:01.930,1:02:10.869
Yeah. I also was walking using a walking stick
for 4 years and I had all the symptoms of

1:02:10.869,1:02:18.480
multiple sclerosis but I refused to go to
the Doctors because they would just give me

1:02:18.480,1:02:24.150
a bucket full of pills anyway.
The best case so far was a girls with cerebral

1:02:24.150,1:02:34.089
palsy, she was 12 years of age and her parents
called me and asked me about a bull terrier

1:02:34.089,1:02:39.060
and the question was, what would an adult
male bull terrier be like around a severely

1:02:39.060,1:02:41.859
disabled child?
I said what's the matter with your kid?

1:02:41.859,1:02:45.099
She said why do you want to know?
I said, I might be able to help.

1:02:45.099,1:02:47.680
She said don't be bloody ridiculous, I rang
for information about a dog, she said I have

1:02:47.680,1:02:51.550
been half way around the world no body can
help my daughter.

1:02:51.550,1:02:57.940
I said, look I can't make you listen
She said well spit it out then, so I told

1:02:57.940,1:03:02.470
her all about my research and how it had been
helping people with multiple sclerosis and

1:03:02.470,1:03:08.520
people with spinal cord injury and that it
might just work with a child with cerebral

1:03:08.520,1:03:17.810
palsy. By now she had told me that her daughter
had cp and up to the age of 12 had never walked

1:03:17.810,1:03:22.530
and she wore callipers day times and night
times to keep her legs straight. She had no

1:03:22.530,1:03:30.839
muscles on her legs, very frail and they tilted
the bed. It took quite a few months I think

1:03:30.839,1:03:36.320
it was about 8 months probably longer when
the school rang up and said that this little

1:03:36.320,1:03:43.829
girl had got out of her wheelchair and walked
at school. That's the first time in 12 years.

1:03:43.829,1:03:47.220
Wow
And it was quite a few months later, this

1:03:47.220,1:03:54.060
girl actually called me up and I picked the
phone up and she said are you Andrew? I said

1:03:54.060,1:03:56.770
Yes
She said I'm the little girl that you have

1:03:56.770,1:04:00.950
been helping.
She said I have just called to say thank you

1:04:00.950,1:04:04.420
for what you have done for me.
Do you know, my legs went to jelly and I collapsed

1:04:04.420,1:04:07.720
on the floor, I couldn't even stand up.
Oh my

1:04:07.720,1:04:14.890
That was absolutely incredible.
I was going to say that to you earlier on

1:04:14.890,1:04:20.140
that it must give you such a heart warming
feeling when you see these people recovering.

1:04:20.140,1:04:29.660
It's good Steve because like you say it's
good for the soul, not that I believe I am

1:04:29.660,1:04:33.710
not religious at all in any way, but if I
had my time over again I would do it all over

1:04:33.710,1:04:38.380
again, because hey, If I don't do it nobody
else is going to do it.

1:04:38.380,1:04:45.380
You can't wait for the doctors to come round
and do it because there is no money in it.

1:04:45.380,1:04:49.680
The scientists are not going to do it because
there is no money in it.

1:04:49.680,1:04:55.190
You know so and don't even get me started
on the Governments.

1:04:55.190,1:05:01.130
Ha ha ha
Even the bed makers don't make beds like that

1:05:01.130,1:05:05.680
because there is no money in it.
Now you have hit the nail on the head. In

1:05:05.680,1:05:11.880
the early days I used to have beds made by
Silent Night beds and they said that they

1:05:11.880,1:05:14.740
had to stop.
I said why have you got to stop making them?

1:05:14.740,1:05:18.720
They said well it's casting a lot of doubt
on the beds we make

1:05:18.720,1:05:23.150
ha ha ha
We can't really help you with the advertising

1:05:23.150,1:05:25.240
because we would be shooting ourselves in
the foot.

1:05:25.240,1:05:36.500
that was the end of that relationship.
And in fact it had already helped the chief

1:05:36.500,1:05:43.339
executives personal secretary who had ms,
unbeknown to me they had made an inclined

1:05:43.339,1:05:50.329
bed for her and she had shown remarkable improvements
too.

1:05:50.329,1:05:55.089
You certainly made my bed.
Aye

1:05:55.089,1:05:56.829
Hello Sir
Hello Donald

1:05:56.829,1:06:02.130
Hi Andrew how are you?
I am very good thank you my friend.

1:06:02.130,1:06:06.180
Hi Terri I just want to say you are great
Oh thank you why?

1:06:06.180,1:06:12.190
You just really hit the nails on the head
with these things and it's just really great

1:06:12.190,1:06:17.130
to hear the input
Well, I like what he has done for us.

1:06:17.130,1:06:26.119
Yes it's just incredible
Andrew didn't you say that sitting in a wheelchair

1:06:26.119,1:06:32.579
is a horrendous thing to make people do, if
you have got this disease anyway why would

1:06:32.579,1:06:34.609
you sit in a wheel chair all day?
Yeah

1:06:34.609,1:06:39.329
Wheelchair posture is really wrong, you know
bucket seat posture with your knees higher

1:06:39.329,1:06:44.329
than your seat, that is going to compromise
circulation down through your body together

1:06:44.329,1:06:47.839
with pressure you have got on your buttocks
yeah definitely a no no.

1:06:47.839,1:06:57.490
And in fact I took the main board room at
Jaguar cars and they said normally 20 minutes

1:06:57.490,1:07:02.170
would suffice and people would start walking
out of the room with these high ranking directors.

1:07:02.170,1:07:08.099
But the talk was about how car seats are making
people fall asleep at the wheel.

1:07:08.099,1:07:14.940
Because of bad posture. I said I referred
to it as wheelchair posture and that talk

1:07:14.940,1:07:23.579
at Jaguar cars lasted 2 hours and I captivated
everyone, not one person left the room.

1:07:23.579,1:07:29.400
But they said they couldn't do anything about
the car seating because they have design constraints

1:07:29.400,1:07:34.450
on the vehicles, whatever that means, I haven't
been able to work that out yet.

1:07:34.450,1:07:38.540
So Donald how has inclined bed therapy done
for you?

1:07:38.540,1:07:47.359
Oh it's done really well Andrew and I am actually
lying on my inclined sofa watching my computer.

1:07:47.359,1:07:55.310
I won't give this incline up for anything.
So Steve you would ask people how they have

1:07:55.310,1:08:05.500
gotten on to this thing? Yeah I was trying
to do the exact opposite of what Andrew suggested,

1:08:05.500,1:08:13.500
I had been to the doctor a couple of years
ago and she told me that I was, or she thought

1:08:13.500,1:08:21.460
I was getting heart disease or atherosclerosis
and wanted to put me on the medications that

1:08:21.460,1:08:24.670
are going around for that. I didn't want any
part of that.

1:08:24.670,1:08:31.180
So I had remembered I had rented a home one
time where the bed was actually inclined at

1:08:31.180,1:08:36.339
the foot end by a couple of inches and I thought
I was getting some relief from that, so I

1:08:36.339,1:08:41.009
went on the internet to see if something like
that would help me. The unfortunate thing

1:08:41.009,1:08:45.210
about doing research on the internet is that
I can find anything to corroborate any theory

1:08:45.210,1:08:48.060
I can come up with
That's true

1:08:48.060,1:08:54.480
So I tried to discipline myself to find anything
that corroborates the opposite, so I bumped

1:08:54.480,1:09:00.020
into some of the stuff Andrew had written
up talking about how we are supposed to sleep

1:09:00.020,1:09:05.080
the exact opposite way and I thought oh what
is this and I started to read into it and

1:09:05.080,1:09:09.609
I was like oh my goodness this guy has really
gone into a lot of detail so I had read the

1:09:09.609,1:09:16.380
recommendations to raise the head end of my
bed starting out with a few inches, well I

1:09:16.380,1:09:21.069
couldn't wait, I think I inclined about 4
inches and before bed time I already had it

1:09:21.069,1:09:23.870
up to six or 7"
Ha ha ha

1:09:23.870,1:09:25.279
That's where you belong
Yeah

1:09:25.279,1:09:30.810
ha ha ha Thanks
Well the Doctor had actually told me earlier

1:09:30.810,1:09:37.870
that day that she wasn't getting any pulse
in my right foot and I had an eye stoke about

1:09:37.870,1:09:44.150
six months earlier and she said oh my god,
your arteries are hardening and this is why

1:09:44.150,1:09:51.650
she wanted to put me on the statins as well.
That night I could feel the blood flow tunnelling

1:09:51.650,1:09:55.180
through whatever blockages i was experiencing
in my right foot.

1:09:55.180,1:10:02.130
Then my eyesight started to get better during
the time I had actually managed to quit smoking

1:10:02.130,1:10:06.130
for a little bit
I haven't managed to conquer that one yet.

1:10:06.130,1:10:13.210
But boy I just felt so much better, probably
the thing that most people could identify

1:10:13.210,1:10:19.780
with in my story are the unexpected benefits
as so many of us have had other benefits I

1:10:19.780,1:10:25.590
had a garden where I worked that had about
700 petunia plants and I would squat every

1:10:25.590,1:10:29.770
year to plant these in and I wouldn't get
done with the planting before I was having

1:10:29.770,1:10:34.840
terrible lower back pains and sometimes I
would have to take a full minute just to stand

1:10:34.840,1:10:42.770
up straight.
That winter, I started sleeping inclined with

1:10:42.770,1:10:50.550
the bed head end up six inches and the feet
down. The following spring I planted 1300

1:10:50.550,1:10:58.330
petunia plants not one episode of back pain
at all. Ha ha

1:10:58.330,1:11:08.980
Its incredible
My mother who is now 81 this was a couple

1:11:08.980,1:11:14.510
of years ago that I started this and I was
talking to her about it and oh I think anybody

1:11:14.510,1:11:20.110
who has tried to become an inclined bed therapy
evangelist has run into this I mean, people

1:11:20.110,1:11:24.420
think I am a cook it's almost like I got a
reputation

1:11:24.420,1:11:29.699
Yeah
Like you know so anyway that's ok because

1:11:29.699,1:11:34.610
the couple of people that have tried it and
benefited makes it all worth while and hearing

1:11:34.610,1:11:44.020
from people on this show also is really great
and I told my mother about this and so she

1:11:44.020,1:11:51.280
tried it and then as always all the benefits
are always preceded by a a little a little

1:11:51.280,1:11:55.920
discomfort like going to the gym and working
out. And then all of a sudden there's a benefit.

1:11:55.920,1:12:01.040
My mother was all set to put it back down
she was having pain in her back from this.

1:12:01.040,1:12:07.219
After about 6 days and on the 7th day she
came out of the shower in the morning sat

1:12:07.219,1:12:11.199
down to clip her toe nails and said oh my
goodness I was able to lift my left foot up

1:12:11.199,1:12:14.320
onto my right knee without having to use my
hands.

1:12:14.320,1:12:15.210
Ha ha ha
Wow

1:12:15.210,1:12:19.750
I haven't been able to do that in five years.
he he he

1:12:19.750,1:12:27.350
Now she is telling me that her balance is
increasing tremendously so now I am starting

1:12:27.350,1:12:33.710
to do my own offshoot quasi enthusiast research
which I am looking up, you know how blood

1:12:33.710,1:12:37.660
circulation affects the vestibular and there
is so many directions we can go in. Anyway,

1:12:37.660,1:12:46.310
I tend to be long winded and that's my story.,
Brilliant, thank you very much Donald

1:12:46.310,1:12:50.780
Sure
We didn't hear where does Donald live?

1:12:50.780,1:12:56.489
Oh I'm in New Haven Connecticut Terri.
Yeah another Yankee here

1:12:56.489,1:13:09.110
I'm in Ohio
Your in among friends, we have 
a lot of American listeners and American hosts

1:13:09.110,1:13:16.340
and some are especially first nations people
so yeah way we look at Awake is that all races

1:13:16.340,1:13:21.530
cultures and religions we have all got to
come together and share this kinda knowledge

1:13:21.530,1:13:27.260
because certainly the powers that be we call
them certainly don't want us to be healthy

1:13:27.260,1:13:34.080
it would appear.
The government doesn't want us healthy.

1:13:34.080,1:13:42.370
Yeah, what it is, is a sickness industry,
if we are all well, they are out of business.

1:13:42.370,1:13:45.670
That's right
Did you say how long you had been doing the

1:13:45.670,1:13:50.870
therapy Donald?
Let's see I, when did I first contact you

1:13:50.870,1:13:54.860
Andrew about 2 years ago?
Yeah it's been about 2 years.

1:13:54.860,1:14:00.330
As a matter of fact yeah I only discovered
it recently Terri I couldn't believe that

1:14:00.330,1:14:06.440
when I discovered it about two and a half
years ago and Andrew had been working on it

1:14:06.440,1:14:12.540
since like the 1990's It's like oh my god
where have I been?

1:14:12.540,1:14:14.540
Yeah so anyway it's been about 2 and a half
years.

1:14:14.540,1:14:25.170
I have been doing this since 1998 Don
Well it certainly seems that there is an initial

1:14:25.170,1:14:32.180
effects that can be quite a positive, obviously
over the long term you know you have got to

1:14:32.180,1:14:35.360
be patient with it I think.
Yes

1:14:35.360,1:14:41.310
The first two weeks can be problematic for
some people as Donald said it feels like you

1:14:41.310,1:14:47.030
have been working out in the gymnasium, your
muscles are aching, you can get a stiff neck,

1:14:47.030,1:14:56.199
I remember getting a stiff neck =, but I also
remember one of the days we took the lads

1:14:56.199,1:15:03.090
down to the beach and the lads had skate boards
and I had a bull terrier pulling them up and

1:15:03.090,1:15:12.770
down the beach and I was running in front
shouting the dog and the dog was a big powerful

1:15:12.770,1:15:18.230
dog pulling the lads at tremendous speed and
the dog was falling on the floor completely

1:15:18.230,1:15:22.460
done in and when I got back I said oh the
poor dog.

1:15:22.460,1:15:28.500
I remember Jude saying how come you are not
out of breath? Why have you done all of this

1:15:28.500,1:15:32.840
and you are not out of breath?
And another thing that we noticed as that

1:15:32.840,1:15:37.880
if we walked up the hill we would normally
ache and with bags filled with shopping we

1:15:37.880,1:15:44.070
would pull over and stop, but now we were
able to carry on without stopping so you know

1:15:44.070,1:15:49.070
that the benefits are quite remarkable.
Yeah

1:15:49.070,1:15:55.670
When I was first diagnosed in 1998 I had a
great deal of difficulty walking for any length

1:15:55.670,1:16:01.739
of time and I thought for sure I was going
to follow the normal progression of multiple

1:16:01.739,1:16:08.030
sclerosis getting worse worse worse and since
I started this right away since I was diagnosed

1:16:08.030,1:16:15.690
I am impressed that I have got better and
better and it has constantly got better and

1:16:15.690,1:16:20.489
better and I have never had a huge set back
that put me back further than where I started

1:16:20.489,1:16:23.650
from.
That's quite impressive because anyone that

1:16:23.650,1:16:28.590
knows anything about multiple sclerosis is
that it generally does not take any prisoners

1:16:28.590,1:16:40.880
Yeah In the initial study we had two ladies,
two ophthalmologists, this was the pilot study

1:16:40.880,1:16:48.780
before Terri joined, the first pilot study.
Two ladies ophthalmologists wrote to me and

1:16:48.780,1:16:53.750
said could you explain to me how putting two
blocks of wood under someone's bed can restore

1:16:53.750,1:16:59.800
someone's sight?
I had to go down and explain to them, they

1:16:59.800,1:17:02.350
were fascinated.
Yes it sure did mine

1:17:02.350,1:17:12.070
You know Steve there was one benefit that
I will take a risk on saying here on radio

1:17:12.070,1:17:17.290
is anybody with erectile dysfunction can get
benefits from this.

1:17:17.290,1:17:27.630
That's true as well yes
You know when I erm, how can I put this on

1:17:27.630,1:17:34.320
radio, well let me just say that one time
the woman I was seeing at the time said I

1:17:34.320,1:17:38.030
am really impressed with what this has accomplished
Ha ha ha

1:17:38.030,1:17:44.170
I'm going to get a T shirt with that on printed
on it.

1:17:44.170,1:17:51.790
Well this could almost be a test for Granada
Steve's radio listening audience, we all remember

1:17:51.790,1:17:58.410
how the sales of viagra took off to the point
that they had to re-double and triple their

1:17:58.410,1:18:04.980
forecasts. Now we have to find out if every
body starts sleeping on inclined beds.

1:18:04.980,1:18:07.010
He he he he
Quite

1:18:07.010,1:18:12.850
As long as it works that's all good.
Yeah well put Donald.

1:18:12.850,1:18:18.080
Very subtle
You know all I could say is if you get a tonne

1:18:18.080,1:18:22.719
of listener-ship out of this starting in the
next 5 minutes you know

1:18:22.719,1:18:26.150
he he he he he he
If there is any profit generated from this

1:18:26.150,1:18:31.260
do something to promote what Andrew has done
because, I mean just the number of people

1:18:31.260,1:18:36.570
that have been helped, I can't imagine that
Andrew doesn't feel like the richest man alive

1:18:36.570,1:18:38.520
right now.
I do I do

1:18:38.520,1:18:42.930
Not to say that there isn't a price that comes
along with that he gets a lot of other people

1:18:42.930,1:18:46.199
writing in stuff saying he's a cook but they
are all people who haven't tried it

1:18:46.199,1:18:49.680
Yes.
I have yet to hear from one person who has

1:18:49.680,1:18:54.580
give this a good try say that it's nuts. Not
one.

1:18:54.580,1:19:02.650
Hi Donald
I have been using for the last 18 years at

1:19:02.650,1:19:13.150
least. I live in Yorkshire and I admit major
spine problems working off shore as an engineer

1:19:13.150,1:19:21.340
and I was using a walking stick over 4 years
as I was constantly falling over. Very very

1:19:21.340,1:19:30.460
similar to ms symptoms, but I refused to go
to the doctors after I found Andrew

1:19:30.460,1:19:36.070
Yes
One thing that I will say for your listeners

1:19:36.070,1:19:45.710
is Inclined bed therapy is the cure for migraines!
The last one I had was in 1994

1:19:45.710,1:19:52.060
I can quite believe that.
And another lady now has just joined us who

1:19:52.060,1:19:57.640
suffers with terrible migraines and I asked
her the other day how many migraines have

1:19:57.640,1:20:03.170
you had since, she said none!
So that's another load of pills that need

1:20:03.170,1:20:05.770
to go in the bin.
That don't work incidentally.

1:20:05.770,1:20:12.320
Bathroom visits In the middle of the night
and someone else had also indicated that that

1:20:12.320,1:20:16.670
would help her main thing that she was trying
it for and she said it had helped tremendously

1:20:16.670,1:20:22.120
and fewer times she had to get up in the night.
That's right, night time urination yes, but

1:20:22.120,1:20:29.060
also bed wetting, anybody that's having problems
with the youngsters bed wetting tilt the bed.

1:20:29.060,1:20:33.140
I have had lots and lots of reports saying
it stops instantly.

1:20:33.140,1:20:40.820
And again that's down to the 2 degree temperature
drop when you are lying on a flat bed, that

1:20:40.820,1:20:46.290
means your body temperature drops so you feel
cold and when you feel cold you need to pee.

1:20:46.290,1:20:52.050
So if your asleep unfortunately that's when
you get an accident. But if your body temperature

1:20:52.050,1:21:00.480
is not dropping there is no need to, well
you don't get the urge.

1:21:00.480,1:21:06.070
I think it was the lady that got me to start
with it is Betty is the person that suggested

1:21:06.070,1:21:11.590
she had fewer reasons to have to get up during
the night and she appreciated it.

1:21:11.590,1:21:15.840
Yes, that's one of the first reports that
we get back in.

1:21:15.840,1:21:22.190
Another one was a lady with osteoporosis,
a lady called Ruby Tate, she actually appeared

1:21:22.190,1:21:27.940
on the local television although I have lost
the original broadcast it was on a video tape

1:21:27.940,1:21:34.090
that got destroyed, but when I met the lady
she had answered a little advert in the newspaper

1:21:34.090,1:21:40.480
and this was before I had the internet and
it just said, looking for volunteers to sleep

1:21:40.480,1:21:46.550
with the head of the bed raised six inches
and that's all that I put.

1:21:46.550,1:21:54.000
Because that's all I could afford
She came back to me, she contacted me and

1:21:54.000,1:21:59.480
she said she couldn't believe the differences.
Again she was racked with pain, if she needed

1:21:59.480,1:22:04.170
to turn around she would have to turn her
whole body around because her body was seizing

1:22:04.170,1:22:08.750
up. She couldn't drive her car because she
couldn't look in the mirror, she couldn't

1:22:08.750,1:22:15.060
turn over in bed because she was in agony.
Tilted her bed and all of those problems just

1:22:15.060,1:22:17.730
vanished.
She got full movement of her body and spine

1:22:17.730,1:22:22.929
and neck, she was able to drive again, she
could turn over in bed she could clothe herself,

1:22:22.929,1:22:29.290
dress herself, put her bra on, none of these
things she could achieve and her husband Harry,

1:22:29.290,1:22:36.790
well her partner, he wasn't her husband partner
called Harry he had what they call a suppurating

1:22:36.790,1:22:44.190
scar on his arm which had been there for 30
years it healed up.

1:22:44.190,1:22:47.230
Wow
Amazing

1:22:47.230,1:22:53.880
Have you had any contact with people who have
diabetes and how this affects them?

1:22:53.880,1:23:03.440
Well yes good point Terri Yes a lot of reports
back from people with diabetes. A gentleman

1:23:03.440,1:23:09.920
over in Brixham we have found that his blood
sugar levels are becoming more normal and

1:23:09.920,1:23:20.790
his insulin has dropped quite dramatically,
he is on about a quarter of the dose he was

1:23:20.790,1:23:26.750
on before he tilted the bed.
And he had a bleed behind his eye and he was

1:23:26.750,1:23:35.730
told that he needed surgery, this is laser
surgery, and the bleed stopped, they were

1:23:35.730,1:23:39.830
mystified by what had happened.
And then he moved over to Canada for a little

1:23:39.830,1:23:47.280
while on holiday a long holiday and he slept
flat and his eye started to bleed again from

1:23:47.280,1:23:51.110
the back of his eye.
But when he got back to the UK, it stopped

1:23:51.110,1:24:00.840
again because he was on his sloping bed.
But interestingly enough his wife, has got

1:24:00.840,1:24:13.469
type 1 diabetes caused through a steroid prednisalone,
she was overdosed on prednisalone and she

1:24:13.469,1:24:19.210
was told it had destroyed her pancreas and
that it would never work again.

1:24:19.210,1:24:26.670
And low and behold she is now starting to
produce her own insulin again. So her insulin

1:24:26.670,1:24:30.699
dose is dropping.
Which is fantastic, but the icing on the cake

1:24:30.699,1:24:44.420
for diabetes is a guy called Tetaake Yee Ting
who is a doctor over in Pohnpei Island and

1:24:44.420,1:24:48.250
with the help of the government there and
the doctors and the local hospital and the

1:24:48.250,1:24:56.010
college, they conducted a study with a group
of patients with diabetes and they tilted

1:24:56.010,1:25:00.690
the beds.
Right across the board they listed a whole

1:25:00.690,1:25:06.660
number of other complaints they have and all
of their sugar levels had dropped, all but

1:25:06.660,1:25:14.000
two who had gone in the opposite direction.
So being a lateral thinker himself he investigated

1:25:14.000,1:25:18.550
why these two had gone in the wrong direction
and both of them admitted that they hadn't

1:25:18.550,1:25:26.310
been sleeping on an inclined bed and that
one had been binging out a wedding and another

1:25:26.310,1:25:31.210
had been binging out for two days at a funeral.
But when they went back to the inclined bed

1:25:31.210,1:25:35.250
their blood sugar levels came down as well,
quite significantly.

1:25:35.250,1:25:39.580
So this is really important and I have always
maintained as well that these rows of poor

1:25:39.580,1:25:44.520
people who are in the hospitals and are having
their limbs amputated with gangrene, this

1:25:44.520,1:25:52.980
can be stopped, you know, it is totally unnecessary.
If they modified their beds, I am sure that

1:25:52.980,1:25:57.699
many of those amputations would be averted.
They are going to have to change their eating

1:25:57.699,1:26:03.780
habits as well as their sleeping habits.
Well yes, but the Americans introduced their

1:26:03.780,1:26:12.590
diet to the Pohnpei Island. They were ok when
they had their own native diet, they were

1:26:12.590,1:26:18.910
very healthy indeed. Unfortunately the American
way has got the better of them.

1:26:18.910,1:26:22.590
My condolences to them.

1:26:22.590,1:26:31.780
There was a child locally with an enlarged
dysfunctioning pituitary gland.. Quite severe

1:26:31.780,1:26:40.650
paralysis and I met this lady who was at a
party and had her head down looking all depressed,

1:26:40.650,1:26:47.480
so I asked her what the matter was? And she
told me all about her son and she tilted the

1:26:47.480,1:26:55.570
bed. And a year later I was at another party
and this lady kept looking at me strange and

1:26:55.570,1:27:01.030
I thought well there is something going on
here and she came over in front of my wife

1:27:01.030,1:27:06.500
and put her arms around me. And said it worked.
By now I had forgotten all about who it was

1:27:06.500,1:27:11.080
Wow
She said my son is working out down the gymnasium

1:27:11.080,1:27:17.420
he has got the use of his arms his hands and
his legs back.

1:27:17.420,1:27:25.679
I am bringing Rubicon into the call just now
and I will try and get Avalina into the call

1:27:25.679,1:27:28.170
if I can.
Hello

1:27:28.170,1:27:29.410
Hello
Hello

1:27:29.410,1:27:32.530
Hello
Can you hear me?

1:27:32.530,1:27:36.120
Yes yes we can
We can hear you

1:27:36.120,1:27:40.030
ahh good
Are you still there

1:27:40.030,1:27:42.070
Yes
Have you tried the inclined bed therapy?

1:27:42.070,1:27:44.920
Yes I have, yes I have been doing if for 6
years now

1:27:44.920,1:27:52.100
Wow
I had terrible stomach problems for a number

1:27:52.100,1:27:59.340
of years and I went to the Doctor but unfortunately
the tablets I was given had many side effects.

1:27:59.340,1:28:04.699
Course they do
Yes of course so one of them unfortunately

1:28:04.699,1:28:12.190
was breast enlargement and being a small lady
That can't be a bad thing he he he he

1:28:12.190,1:28:15.730
I didn't want to have a sort of over toppling
problem you know

1:28:15.730,1:28:24.449
Anyway so I came off those and well didn't
know what to do really and found Andrew's

1:28:24.449,1:28:26.390
inclined bed therapy and thought I would give
it a try.

1:28:26.390,1:28:35.850
My husband made the bed and I can safely say
within 2 or 3 days I had no more stomach problems.

1:28:35.850,1:28:44.020
Yeah so I am a great advocate of inclinedbedtherapy.com
not only that I find I am more refreshed in

1:28:44.020,1:28:51.239
the morning I sleep better and I get over
things quicker, you know illnesses and I am

1:28:51.239,1:28:55.949
less thirsty in the mornings and it's a great
mood lifter.

1:28:55.949,1:29:08.840
Brilliant yes.
Did you say your husband is trying it?

1:29:08.840,1:29:16.040
Is that David?
Yes it is

1:29:16.040,1:29:22.699
Hello David
Well yes we are getting around to it we sleep

1:29:22.699,1:29:30.570
in separate beds, Yeah I like to sleep separately,
I like to get a good nights sleep.

1:29:30.570,1:29:36.650
But yeah we are working on that David at some
point we are going to order the wood when

1:29:36.650,1:29:41.500
we have got some money order some wood at
the end of the year and my husband will make

1:29:41.500,1:29:45.400
an inclined bed for himself
Excellent

1:29:45.400,1:29:59.230
Thank you for chipping in, very interesting.
What were your stomach problems, acid reflux?

1:29:59.230,1:30:05.860
Yes that's right, I mean it is so debilitating
all day finding whatever you eat you just

1:30:05.860,1:30:13.940
feel you have got this terrible heart burn
and acid reflux and all related problems etc,

1:30:13.940,1:30:20.960
it didn't matter what I did, let's just say
that other things have helped too since then,

1:30:20.960,1:30:23.610
but the first thing that helped was the inclined
bed therapy

1:30:23.610,1:30:27.230
Right
Yeah from there I was able to take things

1:30:27.230,1:30:35.170
further, you know change diet eventually etc
but to start off not to have to take the tablet

1:30:35.170,1:30:42.080
and have a natural replacement for that you
know was really important to me. I don't like

1:30:42.080,1:30:48.010
taking tablets.
Was that zantac, I just hate having to take

1:30:48.010,1:30:52.699
those?
Oh yes exactly, I am not a person for taking

1:30:52.699,1:30:57.730
tablets so I really did resent taking anything
that could give me side effects so it was

1:30:57.730,1:31:03.060
lovely, really great to have that feeling
of ahh I have got some relief with the inclined

1:31:03.060,1:31:09.710
bed therapy and then from then on I could
make changes. So I have stayed inclined and

1:31:09.710,1:31:15.300
what I suppose I aught to say to people is
to try it and stay on it, don't come off it

1:31:15.300,1:31:20.449
when your symptoms have ceased. When you feel
that things have changed, I know a lot of

1:31:20.449,1:31:23.980
people have said oh I tried it and it was
really great, but then went back of course

1:31:23.980,1:31:28.100
to sleeping flat. Well I think that is a disaster.
Why would they do that

1:31:28.100,1:31:34.380
Well people I suppose sleeping in bed with
partners, perhaps there have been problems

1:31:34.380,1:31:37.199
there and.
I said there was a couch

1:31:37.199,1:31:44.850
Yeah well that's right but I can understand
but you know I suppose that's what I want

1:31:44.850,1:31:49.199
to say really is stay with it if you are going
to do inclined bed therapy don't give up after

1:31:49.199,1:31:51.190
a couple of months stay with it.
Yeah

1:31:51.190,1:31:57.210
Interesting that you were talking about people
who were on it that got away because I can't

1:31:57.210,1:32:02.730
get away, when I went away to my sisters place
in Vermont and I had to sleep flat I thought

1:32:02.730,1:32:08.010
that I was going to die in my sleep
Yeah, absolutely, you feel suffocated don't

1:32:08.010,1:32:12.989
you.
Yes yes

1:32:12.989,1:32:16.989
I also want to tell you something great that
happened because I live on a small island

1:32:16.989,1:32:25.969
and there is only 57 of us and 3 people here
also sleep inclined. One particular man they

1:32:25.969,1:32:31.040
are all elderly but one of them had a very
bad varicose vein in his leg and for years

1:32:31.040,1:32:37.590
he has had this varicose vein.
I would say it was in 3 or four days his varicose

1:32:37.590,1:32:41.410
vein disappeared after sleeping inclined.
Which is fantastic isn't it

1:32:41.410,1:32:42.910
It is fantastic
That's beautiful

1:32:42.910,1:32:49.219
Yeah and he stayed inclined. I say to him
are you still inclined? He says Oh yes. he

1:32:49.219,1:32:53.320
he he he
And another guy also had a very bad neck problem

1:32:53.320,1:32:56.989
and there has been no therapist that managed
to sort it out.

1:32:56.989,1:33:01.219
He was suffering with his neck problem so
I thought I would mention it to him and he

1:33:01.219,1:33:07.280
said Oh I will give it a try and again that
was within literally within a week. He said

1:33:07.280,1:33:14.050
I don't believe it, what Doctors couldn't
fix, sleeping so simply it's fixed. He said

1:33:14.050,1:33:18.449
I am telling everyone I'm telling everyone,
i'm driving people mad, I'm telling them ha

1:33:18.449,1:33:22.780
ha ha ha
He has become an inclined bed bore like the

1:33:22.780,1:33:26.280
rest of us.
Yeah absolutely that's right

1:33:26.280,1:33:31.600
It is amazing some of the immediate benefits
a lot of them take a lot longer but my girlfriend

1:33:31.600,1:33:36.360
remarked immediately that my snoring had almost
been eliminated.

1:33:36.360,1:33:42.120
Oh Yeah Yeah The snoring is great
I told my cousin about that and suddenly her

1:33:42.120,1:33:48.989
and her husband were sleeping in the same
bed again now. Because it eliminated his snoring.

1:33:48.989,1:33:53.580
And then I called Andrew and told him about
this and he said oh yeah inclined bed therapy

1:33:53.580,1:33:55.540
has saved many marriages.
Yes

1:33:55.540,1:33:58.820
ha ha ha ha
Fantastic isn't it

1:33:58.820,1:34:03.100
Yes
You don't expect it do you?

1:34:03.100,1:34:09.760
Say again David
No I didn't expect the snoring to improve

1:34:09.760,1:34:13.860
and then a friend of mine is getting a lot
of treatment right now from specialists for

1:34:13.860,1:34:20.350
sleep apnea I had heard through his co worker,
so I left him a note saying I have the solution

1:34:20.350,1:34:24.719
for that and it's absolutely free. He never
called me.

1:34:24.719,1:34:31.989
It's not the least bit difficult to deal with
a mask over your head while you are sleeping.

1:34:31.989,1:34:36.840
Yeah and that's what he is doing right now
while he is sleeping, dealing with the mask

1:34:36.840,1:34:40.940
and everything rather than a call to a crazy
guy who sleeps at the same tilt that we all

1:34:40.940,1:34:44.500
automatically pick when we go to the beach.
Yes

1:34:44.500,1:34:52.739
I know one guy who moved down to the Virginia
coast from her because he said I always sleep

1:34:52.739,1:34:56.820
so much better at the beach.
I didn't want to break his heart and say guess

1:34:56.820,1:34:58.929
what it isn't the sun that's doing it.
Ha ha ha

1:34:58.929,1:35:05.030
Yeah It's the same when you go camping isn't
it when you find yourself on a slight incline

1:35:05.030,1:35:08.929
you don't realise how refreshed you feel from
it.

1:35:08.929,1:35:19.260
I was just going to say I know other people
that report the same thing that you just said.

1:35:19.260,1:35:25.300
And we can do it all right in our own home,
Yes for no cost

1:35:25.300,1:35:30.140
Isn't it interesting how resistant that people
are to try this though?

1:35:30.140,1:35:34.210
Oh if you wanna lose popularity pretty real
quick

1:35:34.210,1:35:38.000
Mention it
I have had friends de-friend me on Facebook

1:35:38.000,1:35:39.270
for bringing it up
he ha ha ha ha ha

1:35:39.270,1:35:46.460
I am really sorry to say this folks but we
have got about 5 more minutes and we may give

1:35:46.460,1:35:54.570
each one of you a minute or so to maybe say
your websites and so on and your last parting

1:35:54.570,1:36:01.340
words but I think for me I would prefer you
guys to come back again and tell me more of

1:36:01.340,1:36:04.810
your experiences because I don't think we
have covered it enough by far.

1:36:04.810,1:36:16.350
It's a long subject but where do you stop,
it just goes on and on. 20 years of my life.

1:36:16.350,1:36:23.600
Didn't NASA advertise for volunteers to sleep
inclined on their space subject.

1:36:23.600,1:36:33.230
They were offering 7 thousand dollars.
Oh NASA, you have got space research as well,

1:36:33.230,1:36:41.500
we covered that in the first part of the show.
But yeah they are paying people $17,000 dollars

1:36:41.500,1:36:49.170
to stay in bed for three months and the bed
is slanted down head down and feet up.

1:36:49.170,1:36:55.820
But they are studying this because of what
happens to astronauts in space because it

1:36:55.820,1:37:01.580
ages 10 times faster when you take gravity
away so they come up with a great idea we

1:37:01.580,1:37:08.949
will put people in bed and we will re-create
the 10 times ageing process and give them

1:37:08.949,1:37:23.420
17 grand to keep their mouths shut.
It has been an amazing adventure and all because

1:37:23.420,1:37:26.500
we tried to understand how water got to the
top of a tree.

1:37:26.500,1:37:34.600
Yeah ha ha ha ha
Terri do you have any parting words?

1:37:34.600,1:37:40.340
I am just so thrilled that Andrew can share
this all with us, he did all the research

1:37:40.340,1:37:45.550
and we get all the benefits.
Yeah ha ha He's a nice feller isn't he.

1:37:45.550,1:37:49.390
I think we have all done the research. I wouldn't
have been able to do anything if it hadn't

1:37:49.390,1:37:56.260
been for people like Terri and David and Donald
and Rubicon and now you Steve, your experimenting

1:37:56.260,1:38:00.469
as well.
Yeah well I will show my bit on another occasions

1:38:00.469,1:38:06.650
and will let you know how i get on, I am in
the early stages of it, I have problems getting

1:38:06.650,1:38:13.600
into the bed to sleep, but whenever I can
get into the bed I am finding that I am sleeping

1:38:13.600,1:38:20.380
really quite solid and my feet the swelling
is reduced but of course when I get up then

1:38:20.380,1:38:25.469
it starts filling up my feet again but early
days for me I really haven't given that a

1:38:25.469,1:38:29.770
good enough shot yet but I will come back
to you and let you know.

1:38:29.770,1:38:36.239
What I would like to say to your listeners
is if you do do this is to please keep a journal.

1:38:36.239,1:38:44.880
I have a template on the Htto://inclinedbedtherapy.com
Forum and I will be modifying that template

1:38:44.880,1:38:50.960
and putting it under my research tab and you
can download it and use this to record changes.

1:38:50.960,1:38:57.920
There is also a document called things to
monitor, which I have uploaded to the website,

1:38:57.920,1:39:07.000
it sort of outlines the parameters of the
research so highlights some things that you

1:39:07.000,1:39:10.590
can look for that you wouldn't normally be
looking for, like half moons on the fingers,

1:39:10.590,1:39:19.469
finger nails growing stronger, smoother, hair
growing faster, people who have hair falling

1:39:19.469,1:39:22.630
out, suddenly find that it is no longer falling
out.

1:39:22.630,1:39:28.239
Old scar tissue seems to vanish as well, I
have a huge scar down my leg from barbed wire

1:39:28.239,1:39:35.719
and that's all filled in nicely it is hardly
visible. That groove had been in my leg since

1:39:35.719,1:39:44.280
I was about 18 or 19.
Again if you keep a journal and jot down anything

1:39:44.280,1:39:51.610
or record any photograph evidence of varicose
veins, photograph evidence of oedema, skin

1:39:51.610,1:39:58.520
conditions such as psoriasis or even make
a video diary all of this will help to reach

1:39:58.520,1:40:03.690
many more people.
Well I really hope that we can help you to

1:40:03.690,1:40:10.440
do that and get the word out there. I really
do think you are on to something and simple

1:40:10.440,1:40:17.860
simple thing like raising your bed six inches
I think it remarkable what you have done already

1:40:17.860,1:40:23.760
and I really do think you are onto a good
thing and anything we can do to help promote

1:40:23.760,1:40:27.860
you and the inclined bed therapy we shall
be trying our best.

1:40:27.860,1:40:32.170
Thank you very much Steve
Would you like to give us your website again

1:40:32.170,1:40:36.179
or any relevant information?
Yes we have a Facebook account as well which

1:40:36.179,1:40:40.540
is again inclined bed therapy group and a
page

1:40:40.540,1:40:45.750
And the website is http://inclinedbedtherapy.com
Cool cool

1:40:45.750,1:40:52.280
Well I am reluctant to end the show folks
but we have got about four minutes and our

1:40:52.280,1:40:58.239
next host will be here very very shortly.
I would like to say a big thanks to the people

1:40:58.239,1:41:07.100
that have come in and shared their own experience.
This adds a lot more weight than me or you

1:41:07.100,1:41:12.710
Steve just talking about this.
These are real people and I am very proud

1:41:12.710,1:41:16.739
of you helping me thank you very much.
You are very welcome

1:41:16.739,1:41:21.100
your very welcome
I am so glad that I could be of help

1:41:21.100,1:41:26.409
That thanks comes from me as well I really
do appreciate you giving your experiences

1:41:26.409,1:41:30.500
as Andrew said there is nothing like word
of mouth.

1:41:30.500,1:41:34.429
This is the first time that I have been able
to talk about inclined bed therapy for this

1:41:34.429,1:41:41.210
long without people trying to change the subject
Ha ha ha ha ha

1:41:41.210,1:41:46.000
We may well have you back on again I think
Andrew was talking about doing a show in a

1:41:46.000,1:41:51.370
few weeks or something like that when we have
people my end who are trying inclined bed

1:41:51.370,1:41:56.690
therapy so we will try and work something
That will be great yeah

1:41:56.690,1:42:02.870
It needs to be about 4 weeks minimum probably
even longer.

1:42:02.870,1:42:06.710
I see
Probably even a couple of months before you

1:42:06.710,1:42:10.159
will see the full effects.
For example if you wanted to ask somebody

1:42:10.159,1:42:15.929
whether they have had a migraine in two months
and how many migraines would they have had

1:42:15.929,1:42:19.620
in those two months before the bed was raised
Of course of course

1:42:19.620,1:42:25.140
And how have the kids performed have they
stopped wetting the bed and lots of things

1:42:25.140,1:42:30.510
but it does take time, it doesn't, well it
does happen over night, but perhaps not one

1:42:30.510,1:42:36.969
night.
We will keep a wee eye on it and see what

1:42:36.969,1:42:41.280
we can get moving and I will certainly be
enthusiastic about it,

1:42:41.280,1:42:48.350
Down to 3 minutes folks
May I say one thing before I go?

1:42:48.350,1:42:51.730
Please do
I made a comic for Andrew an inclined bed

1:42:51.730,1:43:00.620
comic to to really bring the message to life,
in colour and in pictures with a little Andrew

1:43:00.620,1:43:07.020
Fletcher in there look alike. So if people
go on the site, on the inclined bed therapy

1:43:07.020,1:43:13.340
site they will find the comic and it's a nice
introduction to his ideas. So it really I

1:43:13.340,1:43:18.400
hope and I am sure it's helped lots of people
to get the idea quickly and then they could

1:43:18.400,1:43:20.989
ask questions afterwords. so read the comic
as well

1:43:20.989,1:43:22.650
Fantastic
I do like your comics

1:43:22.650,1:43:30.110
Your Avalina?
Yes he he he

1:43:30.110,1:43:37.090
OK I was puzzled as to who Rubicon was yeah
It's my husbands account you see but there

1:43:37.090,1:43:39.159
you go
I see I see

1:43:39.159,1:43:46.520
Well thank you very much folks very much appreciate
you coming on Awake Radio and It won't be

1:43:46.520,1:43:53.320
that long before your on again giving your
experiences and I wish you the best and hope

1:43:53.320,1:44:01.590
you keep good health in what you are doing
and Certainly I will report back any good

1:44:01.590,1:44:05.830
health benefits from myself for sure.
I would like to say thank you to all of Steve's

1:44:05.830,1:44:11.400
listeners for sticking with us and I hope
you have enjoyed the show.

1:44:11.400,1:44:17.460
I am sure they have yeah
Well that's it for Granada's workshop for

1:44:17.460,1:44:23.659
this week folks, same time same place next
week, health permitting and once again thanking

1:44:23.659,1:44:32.409
Andrew and the guests for appearing this week
and until then bye for now.

1:44:32.409,1:44:37.170
Off air guys.

1:44:37.170,1:44:43.750
Thank you very much I really really enjoyed
listening to your feedback yeah and it's going

1:44:43.750,1:44:52.550
to make a powerful powerful video and I am
sure it is going to attract a lot more people

1:44:52.550,1:44:55.199
with having their personal accounts brilliant

1:44:55.199,1:45:03.260
But Andrew as I said to you just before you
come on air if you want to do a regular show,

1:45:03.260,1:45:08.590
you know an hour with one of your people in
the forum that may be not too much time for

1:45:08.590,1:45:14.370
you or whatever you would like, it certainly
would be provided to you free of charge and

1:45:14.370,1:45:17.270
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Transcript of Radio Interview With Andrew K Fletcher about Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT) by Clive De Carle

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GRAVITY using IBT Heals our body while Sleeping Flat makes us sick. http://aging.ufl.edu/files/2011/01/deconditioning_campbell.pdf

According to Andrew K Fletcher, who has spent 20 years researching circulation and how gravity is the driving force. We have all learned in school that we are struggling against gravity. Andrew discovered that there is a slight density difference between fluids flowing down and fluids flowing back up our circulatory systems, including the lymphatic system and cerebrospinal fluid system, The density changes occur due to evaporation from our skin, our lungs, sinuses, eyes, and the rest of the respiratory tract. The medical profession erroneously believe that gravity acts equally in the ascending and descending limbs of the circulation. Andrew explains why this is simply not the case. he also investigated the History of sleep to find answers to why without any supporting positive science we began to sleep on flat beds today. His research revealed that the Pharaohs in Ancient Egypt and their people slept with the head end of their beds raised 15 cm / 6 inches at the head end. 

In the Tudor period, laying down to sleep flat was avoided because of the plagues, particularly if you were infected by the sweating sickness, meant that you would be dead by morning. Guards were placed at bedsides to prevent people from laying down flat and as a result many survived.

His exciting sleep posture discovery has helped countless people to regain their health, often against impossible odds, simply by raising the head end of their bed by around 6 inches or 15cm, causing the entire bed to slope down from head to toe at an angle of approximately 5 degrees to the horizontal.

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Andrew talks about how IBT has helped to boost the immune system and how astronauts in space, removed from gravity experience a disrupted immune system, he further explains how NASA and other space programs re-create the serious damaging effects of being in space, here on Earth, simply by paying people to sleep head down and horizontal for sometimes months on end. NASA have shown that space travel accelerates the ageing process to a staggering 10 x faster than here on Earth and if that is not enough to worry us, he explains that they have also shown the same degenerative affects can be reproduced simply by preventing us from standing up and keeping us in bed.

Andrew explains how tall trees circulate sap using the density changes that take place at the leaf as a result of transpiration (Evaporated water) which makes far more sense than what we are teaching students in school.

Clive De Carle: https://www.facebook.com/AncientPurity

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"Clive" Hello it's Clive De Carle here with
another episode of Solutions Revolution, Thank

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you all very much for joining us and today
I am very happy to invite Andrew K Fletcher

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on to the show and Andrew is an expert in
Inclined Bed Therapy http://inclinedbedtherapy.com

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Now if you haven't heard of this it really
is rather a magic thing

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I came across it something like 15 years ago
and I love it, I really really like it.

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But other people are experiencing huge benefits
from a health perspective so welcome Andrew

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Thank's for that Clive, It's not magic it's
science and hopefully I can explain it in

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a way that it makes sense to everyone.
Excellent Thank you. So you discovered this

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about 20 years ago I think?
Yes it was rather an incredible journey

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For example: Who Told Humans That We Should
Sleep On A Flat Bed?

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Yeah good point. So when every I go camping
I am always drawn to a very slight incline

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so that my head is higher and I have heard
you say that animals generally sleep on an

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incline?
Yes if you look around the fields, if there

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is a hill side you will see cattle and sheep
and they will all be facing up hill if they

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are lying down. Sheep seem to know a great
deal about sleeping and a great deal more

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than we do. If you look at chimpanzees in
the wild or in the zoo as well. In the wild

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they will be up in nests and the branches
are not flat and they tend to sleep with their

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heads up and gorillas will sleep resting up
against a tree. The evidence is all there

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you just have to learn to look around
And of course a lot of people used to sleep

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in chairs, didn't they, in the old days, quite
often as I understand it.

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I also understand that people used to have
two sleeps a night quite often.

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So tell us some more about the inclined bed
therapy and what it actually is first of all

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so people know what we are talking about.
Yeah well it is first of all simply raising

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the head end of the bed up six inches or 15
cms, if you are metrically "Inclined" and

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you raise the bed at the head end causing
the whole bed to slope down from head to toe.

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A lot of people make the mistake and say I
have tried Inclined Bed Therapy and it hasn't

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worked for me and then when you dig around
a little bit and ask a few questions they

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tend to tell you that they raised the upper
half of the bed and have their legs raised

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or flat, or have one of these new fangled
electric beds and some people have their knees

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up in the air on these electric machines,
so they have not actually tried the inclined

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bed.
Now if you are sleeping with the bed folded

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in the middle IE an electric bed, what you
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If you are on an angled bed then you are doing
the exact opposite, you are decompressing

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the spine, but you are doing a great deal
more as well.

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Because I had worked out how gravity was driving
the circulation in the body. A tall claim

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I know but if you listen up you will learn
what I learned.

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If the literature states that gravity doesn't
play a role in circulation because it acts

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equally on the blood flowing down as it does
on the blood flowing up, same with the lymphatic

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system, same with cerebrospinal fluid. But
what they have failed to take into account

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is that for every breath we take we evaporate
water from the lungs and that water is donated

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by the blood that flows through the lungs,
so as the blood flows through the lungs it

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becomes denser on exiting, so that denser
blood then passes through the heart and enters

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the main artery, so it's a bit like placing
a pinch of salt at the top of the blood tree.

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And then gravity if we are the right way around
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down, standing, sitting correctly, gravity
will pull on those density changes and drag

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on the blood causing it to be pulled down
which gives the heart a bit of a boost. And

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it pulls the salts and the minerals through
the kidneys a little bit more efficiently

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and then the blood that passes through the
renal system is less dense having got rid

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of the salts that we excrete in the urine
so the blood flowing up will always be more

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dilute than the blood flowing down. It's very
simple really.

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And the same applies to the lymphatic system
and the same applies to the cerebrospinal

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fluid, in fact there is a paper just been
published by Leszek Herbowski and he attributes,

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well he has done some temperature checks on
the cerebrospinal fluid and he has written

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a paper Thermodynamic Approach to Cerebrospinal
Fluid Circulation saying that the cerebrospinal

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fluid that flows down is always denser than
the cerebrospinal fluid that returns back

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up.
Right very interesting and so this is going

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to presumably give your heart a rest, my Step
mother for instance died in her sleep of a

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heart attack, had she have had an inclined
bed would she have stood a better chance do

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you think?
Well, I am just looking at my notes here and

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one of the things I have to mention is that
the medical profession actually know how harmful

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and how dangerous a flat bed is. In fact all
of the literature states that it's the last

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thing on Earth that you want to do is spend
time in bed.

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Around 3.30 in the morning the body temperature
dips by 2 degrees, that is the time that most

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people will pass away in their sleep. Now
when we, my wife and I tested our mouth temperature

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in exactly the same manner that the graph
was compiled of in the literature, there was

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no 2 degree drop in our temperature, our temperature
staid level, well you have peaks and troughs

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but it didn't drop off the 2 degrees that
the flat bed produced.

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How very interesting, so would you get long
term benefits to your heart, presumably you

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must do?
Yes, again the heart rate was really important

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during the initial research, so I had two
reliable volunteers, the two bull terriers,

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fast asleep, they were lying horizontal and
I measured their heart rates and then I got

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them to sleep, well it's not difficult getting
the bull terrier to sleep, so I measured their

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heart rates while they were on an angle and
their heart rate and their respiration rate

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decreased. The heart rate decreased by 10
- 12 beats per minute and respiration rates

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decreased by 4-5 breaths per minute
So the next thing step was to see if the same

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applied to humans. I measured my sons while
they were asleep and I measured my wife's

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while she was asleep and then she did the
same for me. And we found and this is really

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interesting because our heart rate and our
respiration rate decreased by exactly the

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same rate that the bull terriers had shown.
How interesting, so that should relate in

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the end to longer life shouldn't if you are
not.

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I would presume so but there is no claim for
immortality with IBT because there is one

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thing for sure we will all die.
It appears that way Yeah.

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Yeah
It's been a fascinating adventure, another

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spin off which is pertinent to today's problems
with the ebola virus, is that a great number

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of people have reported that they don't seem
to get the infections that other people are

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getting i.e flu, coughs and colds and if they
do get them, they get over them within a very

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short space of time, when people around them
are dropping like flies. And one important

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report came last year which was from our Granddaughter
at nursery. The whole classroom had gone down

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with chicken pox, except she didn't.
Have you any explanations to why that may

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be?
Yes I have, for a virus to infect a cell,

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it usually infects through the fluids, it
would require the fluids to stagnate or slow

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down in order for it to penetrate the cells.
And I believe that if we keep that circulation

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running at it's optimum level then we can
skip a lot of the infections. But also the

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metabolic rate appears to have increased on
the inclined bed because people with cold

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feet and poor circulation, and cold hands,
suddenly find they have got nice toasty warm

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hands and feet, now viruses don't like increases
in body temperature, in fact that's our defence.

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Our body temperature goes up we get a fever
and we manage to kill the virus or defeat

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the virus.
I have know for some time that if, well if

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you think about the statement early with the
flat beds that can cause multiple organ failure,

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neurological damage, cause the bones to de-calcify,
and this is well known by the medical profession,

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but there is no research being done on what
an inclined bed could do for these same people.

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And I believe that if the ebola patients were
not put on these flat beds, I reckon they

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would fare a damned site better than they
are doing now.

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Well that's very interesting, wonder if it
is having an effect on the thyroid, because

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usually if the thyroid is low, people end
up with cold hands and feet. That's one of

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the symptoms of a low thyroid, possibly because
they have low iodine?

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Possibly because they have got low circulation
as well.

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Yes, and what other sorts of benefits have
you seen?

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How many hours do we have?
Two,

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Two hours
Erm, I don't know where to start really, I

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did a great deal of research with people with
multiple sclerosis

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Really?
Had some phenomenal results with ms,

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I had an original pilot study, where by we
had a small group of people with ms, Roger

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Kirk was the first guy to try the sloping
bed and Roger was in a very bad way, he couldn't

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walk. Roger's improvements were incredible,
he came with me to a local chapter in Kingskerswell

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of the MS Society, And we got a group of people
interested. Most people in the hall didn't

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receive the information that we were talking
about and carried on business as usual talking

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to each other and I could tell that it wasn't
striking any chords with them, but a small

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group of people did,
And that small group of people suddenly started

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to improve, incredible results.
Two ladies, one lady in Teignmouth and One

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lady In Paignton, both their ophthalmologists
wrote to me asking me how could placing two

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blocks of wood under someone's bed restore
someone's eyesight that was blind?

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Wow
Yeah, I had people walking that couldn't walk,

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sensitivity came back, bowel and bladder control
came back where it was lost, but in that same

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pilot study, because I had learned by now
that the medical profession were a bit defensive

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and would go to extreme lengths to protect
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I realised and it had been said that multiple
sclerosis could fluctuate anyway, i.e you

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can get relapsing and remitting ms, so they
could be having good days or bad days, in

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fact quite a few of the people on that study
were progressive ms, which didn't fluctuate,

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but nevertheless I included to patients with
spinal cord injury. Now it had been said that

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if one person with a complete spinal cord
injury regained sensitivity and regained function,

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then that would be a major breakthrough and
it would be accepted,

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Well the first two people with spinal cord
injury made incredible progress, they both

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got bowel and bladder control back, one gentleman
who is tetraplegic developed the ability to

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write and could write his own name, his own
address. When I met the guy his hands were

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locked up in two fists, so he couldn't move
his hands at all, he couldn't feel anything

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from the armpits down and his kids used to
dive all over him and being a former boxer,

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the guy was, it was very frustrating, he couldn't
defend himself and laughed it off most of

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the time. But all of a sudden he was able
to make crazy progress, so sensitivity returned

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below the level of the injury, sensitivity
returned to his hands and to his feet, it

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was just incredible.
And the other guy, John, who has passed away

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now, he died from lung cancer, but his spine
according to Tromans and Grundy at Salisbury

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was smashed to smitheries, he had fallen from
a two story building and literally shattered

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his spine. And he was told that he would never
be able to fend for himself, he would always

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be dependent on others and low and behold
he got a great deal of function back.

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His bladder for instance, he told me the one
day that he uses a bladder wash to flush out

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his urine and he noticed that he was able
to push the urine back up into the bladder

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bag, so he regained the ability to control
his urine but it's not just those two guys,

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there have been more people with spinal cord
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reported very similar improvements.
Now back to ms, I tried to work out why these

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people with ms were having significant results
and I did a great deal of research into ms

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and we have all heard about the myelin sheath,
but not a lot of people have heard that myelin

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behaves exactly like liquid crystal in an
lcd screen. Providing it is in it's liquid

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state it functions, now we have talked about
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i.e, cause those fluids to slow down or stagnate,
then that circulation is compromised and those

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crystals will no longer be liquid and become
solid, and when they become solid, they become

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visible under an mri scan. So I suspect that
the circulation increasing would eventually

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re-establish the liquidity of this myelin.
Are you there?

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Yes, well that's amazing and I believe also
that people who are having to urinate at night

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you know just because they are getting old,
actually it's usually a nutrient deficiency,

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but they are also getting positive results?
Yes that was another report that came in many

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times, nocturia I think they call it. And
infant bed wetting as well.

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I have explained that the two degree temperature
drop and if we feel cold we need to urinate

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but if we are not cold then we don't need
to urinate and also because we have increased

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the metabolic rate, evaporation is taking
place more effectively from our lungs and

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from our skin and if we are evaporating more
water away then there is less urine being

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produced. One caveat to that is that if someone
has oedema, ie they have swollen legs and

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swollen hands and swollen feet, the medical
profession will recommend raising the legs.

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Now that's great because that shifts the fluid
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but it doesn't actually push it back into
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the opposite, if we raise the head end of
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seen time and time again is that that excess
fluid in the body is drawn back into the circulation

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through the venous return, whipped around
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So initially if someone has a great deal of
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urination for quite some time.
How long would quite some time be?

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Well it can go on for 3 or 4 days. There's
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he was severely swollen, the chap had Parkinson's
disease and when I met him his limbs were

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like giant water balloons. He couldn't walk,
the couple were struggling to try to get him

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to the bathroom and back to his seat. Getting
him up stairs was a nightmare and we tilted

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the bed and then over the course of a few
days his clothes literally fell on the floor,

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he had lost that much fluid.
His wife was ringing up frantic the one day

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saying that I don't know how to stop my husband
from urinating, and yet all of the time the

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fluid was being drawn back into the circulation.
And this was backed up by a guy called Peter

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Lewis a vascular surgeon, because he did exactly
the same, he had head about what had happened

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to this guy. I had met Lewis at his home along
with another vascular surgeon called Celeste

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from Trinidad and I explained all about the
mechanics, how the body works and how the

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circulation fitted with the new theory and
he was fascinated, then he put me to the test,

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because he had a lady with a severely swollen
body and ascites, which is the abdominal cavity

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fills with fluid because of liver problems.
And he went back to the hospital because he

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had tried diuretics and nothing had worked
and when he came back he said he couldn't

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believe the changes in the lady. He said it
was incredible and that he had never seen

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anything like it.
Well it's good to hear that doctors are listening.

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Yeah, there is a great deal of Doctors now
standing up and actually doing something with

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this. It has been published in a few doctors
books as well.

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Well that's good, the worst case of swollen
limbs that I have seen is lymph oedema.

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Yes
It would clear lymph oedema would it?

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I would imagine that it would, I have not
come across a case of lymph-oedema yet. Elephant

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tiasis is another good example of that and
I often thought that these people that have

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got these huge problems with their legs would...
Actually, My Father was taken ill in hospital,

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he has passed away now he had pancreatic cancer.
While he was in hospital on the flat bed his

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legs were swelling up to the point where his
pyjamas had to be cut. I tried to lift one

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of his legs up and I couldn't lift his leg
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Wow,
His kidneys had packed up, his liver had packed

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up and we were told that it was a matter of
hours before you know, my Father would pass

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away and he was in a coma and I fought tooth
and nail with the doctors and the nurses at

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Russells Hall Hospital and I was very stubborn
and insisted that his bed was put on an angle

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and every time I turned my back they had put
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I got really angry with these people but anyway,
we tilted his bed and within hours his circulation

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had increased that much that the bloody urine
that he was producing the tar urine ran clear

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and yellow, so his kidneys had began functioning
again and over the course of a few days the

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yellowness was going from his skin and his
eyes, so his liver was functioning again and

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he come out of his coma as well.
And then he came home and had an extra 8 months

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of life.
Wow, amazing.

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Yeah
Absolutely amazing.

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That's my own Father, unfortunately, you know,
they did put a stent in after they told me

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that there was nothing that could be done
for my dad. And I said I am going home to

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research this and as soon as I got through
the door, now that's a 200 mile journey, the

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phone rang and it was the doctor who said
we are putting a stent in for your dad. So

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there was a surgical procedure that could
have been done and yet they were trying to

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avoid it and deny it.
Stent's unfortunately are very seldom as effective

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as they say.
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So the oedema, how does that work with the
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that's because the pressure in the venous
return is greater than the pressure in the

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surrounding tissue.
So because of the semi-permiability of the

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veins, the fluid is being pushed by the pressure
into the surrounding tissue. Now when we tilt

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the bed as I have said previously, we change
the density of the blood which then in the

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arteries, which pass through the lungs, that
arterial blood is then influenced by gravity

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and pulled upon and that applies tension to
to every molecule in that blood and that tension

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stretches back to the venous return all the
way back through the kidneys and back to its

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self. So affecting one molecule will have
a chain effect on every molecule of blood

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in the body.
Now if we are applying a downward pressure

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by gravity to the arterial blood, which is
dragging on the density changes, we are applying

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tension to the venous return and if we apply
tension to the venous return, the blood starts

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to pull the walls in. Now the first evidence
for this happened very quickly. Within 4 weeks

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of tilting our bed, my wife's varicose vein
went flat and so did a nurses called Stephanie

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Ness.
Her varicose vein went flat as well.

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And that proved to me that we had nailed something
very very important.

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And if we apply tension we are also increasing
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the arterial side, so we are increasing the
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But for every action there must be a reaction,
we a re decreasing the venous return pressure.

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We are in fact lowering the pressure lower
than the surrounding tissue. So the excess

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fluids migrate from the surrounding tissues
back into the veins, around the circulation

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through the kidneys, where they are filtered
and the spent salts are excreted in the urine.

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And if you stand there at the toilet and decant
your urine, your hot urine down the pan, you

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will see that it sinks straight to the bottom
of the toilet.

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Now you would think that because it is warmer
it would float on the surface, but it contains

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a great deal of minerals and salts so it is
heavier and it sinks.

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And have you had any people with end stage
kidney failure get their kidney function back.

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Not been tested for dialysis, although I have
tried and tried with a friend in fact I have

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a bit of a problem with my own kidneys, I
have a polycistic kidney.

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Polycystic, generally has a relationship with
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I am taking Lugols Iodine
How many drops are you taking?

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2 in the morning 2 in the evening.
And it's what I have made myself, it's a proper

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10%, it's not the 10% that people are trading.
You think people are trading 10% Lugols that

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isn't?
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That's interesting, have they just got the
formula wrong or deliberate do you think?

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No I think it's they have got the formula
wrong.

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I found a recipe from a guy called Israel
on the net, and of course I had a quick play

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around with the maths to see if he had done
it right and yeah it made a great deal of

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sense what he was saying so I made my own.
Fair enough

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Well at least I know what is in it.
Yes yes quite.

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I think iodine is one of the most important
elements out there, particularly Lugol's with

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potassium iodide added to the elemental iodine
and all the Fukushima radiation coming out,

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absolutely essential that we have enough iodine
to stop the radiation getting into the iodine

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receptors.
People don't seem to understand that radiation

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is not nearly as worrying if you have full
nutrition. People don't realise that we have

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the receptors but if the receptors are full
the radioactive iodine will just float on

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past.
Yeah it's a bit like the natural progesterone.

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I have first hand experience with this and
have seen uterine fibroids shrivel up and

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virtually vanish. And it's the same principle
because the receptors from the progesterone

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are the same that the oestrogen uses to make
the benign tumours grow, so we gave it a whirl

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and yeah it works.
Well people are being barraged by oestrogen

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at the moment, mainly I think in bread products,
I don't know whether you have looked at the

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labels on packeted breads in the supermarket?
Every single packet of bread is only partly

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wheat. Most of them are about 40 to 45 % soya.
Wow I didn't know that.

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Yeah I know, I went into the supermarkets
to do some filming, they chucked me out but

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every loaf of bread, the whole lot have been
cut with soya so you know because Hovis used

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to say whole-wheat but it doesn't any more
it says wholemeal.

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That's really interesting, thanks for that.
Then because soya is so cheap they feed it

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to chickens so the chickens and the eggs are
absolutely laced with omega 6. So a chicken

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that has been fed soya will have about 20
times more omega 6 than would be safe, that

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would be normal.
So when they use that phrase, eggs is eggs,

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these days eggs aren't eggs they are quite
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We used to see cow's in the fields but we
don't see those so often now, we put them

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in factories and the poor cows are being fed
soya, never seeing the sun, never knowing

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what grass looks like and we are being fed
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And as a result, people are being hugely poisoned.
And the people that are eating soya products

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like burgers and so on are in real trouble.
And worse still are the babies that are being

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fed on soya formula, I think it's about 28
years ago or something that soya formula first

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came on the market for babies who were allergic
to cows milk and now the children 25 to 26

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years old at the oldest and they all have
one big problem which is great difficulty

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in reproducing because their hormonal cycle
has been damaged by the oestrogen and then

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further damaged by all the chlorine and the
bromine and possibly fluoride that they are

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getting as well.
Most peoples hormones are being made of the

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wrong material these days, which explains
the thyroid epidemic that is rampant out there.

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The sad thing is that in the old days before
levothyroxine, Doctors used to give dried

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desiccated animal thyroid, maybe one grain
or two grains a very small amount and that

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had all the balanced of t4 t3 t2 and so on,
but now with levothyroxin which has just got

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t4 and although it helps peoples symptoms,
it means they are on it for life and they

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are going to have a shorter life and have
a lot of problems.

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I try to encourage people to research lugols
if they have a thyroid problem and to consider

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the natural alternatives, unfortunately the
GP isn't allowed to legally prescribe natural

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thyroid like their predecessors used to but
they have no choice but to give a drug and

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it is very very sad really, they could be
a lot healthier, the biggest problem is the

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lack of iodine.
I don't really know, but over in Japan, whereas

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in England 90% of menopausal woman report
hot flushes and the usual menopausal symptoms,

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whereas in Japan only 10% of women experience
those symptoms of hot flushes and Japanese

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woman only get about a tenth of the cancer
rate of English woman for example.

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And it's been tied down now to the fact they
are eating so much seaweed and so much fish

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that they are getting the equivalent of two
drops of lugols a day.

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So have you noticed any differences after
taking iodine? Clearer thinking maybe?

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The sloping bed is er, I know what you are
saying about the lugols but no I haven't noticed

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any difference with clearer thinking, but
I am pretty sure my Granddaughter is absolutely

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incredible, she has been on the sloping bed
from conception, right through to five years

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of age and she is incredible, she is absolutely
incredible and she has been for many years.

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My new Granddaughter she is on a sloping bed
again and I insist on this actually because

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I am pretty damned sure that putting a baby
on a flat bed will cause Sudden Infant Death

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Syndrome SIDS and I am absolutely certain
that it's doing something for our mental capacity,

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for example a recent report that came through
today a lady who wrote that I thought my life

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was over, she said I was suicideing on ice
cream and I tilted the bed in 2009 and she

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said that it took me a long time to tilt the
bed and I got around to doing it and it was

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like a lightbulb had switched on she lost
a hundred pounds in weight.

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Wow that's amazing is that common to lose
weight?

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What we found in the early days was really
interesting with myself and a good friend

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of mine named Billy. We both titled the beds
and I talked him into tilting his bed and

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this was in the early days and we both noticed
that our weight went up.

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Went up?
Yeah

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and the interesting thing is our clothes became
loose.

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So you were gaining muscle in that case?
Well and bone density, so your bone density

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goes up and your muscle density goes up but
we were definitely burning the fat.

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How interesting
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And with brain function are you noticing that
people with dementia or with Alzheimer's getting

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any improvements?
Well with short term memory loss one of the

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ladies, well it was actually it was the lady
who recovered her eyesight, in Teignmouth

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with multiple sclerosis, she said, I don't
know whether this has anything to do with

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the sloping bed she said, but when I walk
to the door to do something, by the time I

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got to the door, I would have forgotten what
it was and I would spend as long as I liked

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and I wouldn't be able to remember what it
was that I went to the door for. She said

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and now, and this was only after a month or
so, I walk to the door, she said and I'll

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forget just the same as anyone else would
do and she said; and I pause, and then I can

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remember what it is I wanted to do., so her
short term memory function had improved. And

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I think that demands a study in itself.
Well absolutely, funny enough when I am trying

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to assess whether people are low on iodine,
I ask them do you remember where you put your

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car keys? Do you remember why you walked into
a room? and obviously you know that's a common

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thing. I found that most people after 3 months
of iodine, they now remember where they put

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their car keys and why they walked in the
room so maybe, the two combined we will have

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a super memory keeper.
So what about dementia and Altzheimer's

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Not getting any reports, it's not something
I have focused on, again, what I am trying

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to do is focus on things that you will get
reports back from.

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If I help someone with dementia or someone
with a memory problem, what's the chances

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of them reporting back to me? Because this
is a huge problem with people working outside

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of the medical profession because people don't
adhere to the protocols that we set out. In

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fact the medical profession have the same
problem.

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What about the length of time that you sleep,
do you find that you get a more restful nights

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sleep and don't sleep so long or any changes
like that?

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I do tend to wake up in the night and get
up and walk around and get back into bed.

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But I am doing that purposefully because I
have realised the importance of being active

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and moving around rather than a sedentary
lifestyle. It's very important.

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But just one thing on the Intelligence side,
which I think you will find interesting.

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The circulation changed when we stood up.
Are you religous or...

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No
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So when we were walking around on all fours,
the circulation foramina were in the back

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of the head. These are the holes in the skull
that carry the vessels to and from the scalp

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to and from the brain and when we stood up
according to Dean Falk, she is a scientist

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over in America who has a theory called the
Radiator Theory, which I disagree with.

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When we stood up Dean Falk measured where
the foramina, took notice of where the formaina

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where on the skulls that had changed like
on homo-erectus and those foramini had migrated

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to the top of the skull, so the circulation
through the brain had completely changed when

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we stood up.
Now another great scientist Michel Cabanac,

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Professor Michel Cabanac. He did some experiments
with a guy on an exercise cycle and he placed

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a Doppler probe where the eye meets the nose.
He got the guy to work out and it showed normal

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blood flow from the brain out to the skin.
But when the guy becomes overheated on the

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cycle, the blood flow actually changes direction.
It's now flowing from the skin back through

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the brain.
There are no valves in those vessels, so something

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has changed the circulation. Now Falk says
the brain decides where it wants to send the

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circulation.
I am saying that because of the evaporative

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heat loss caused by the exercise, changed
the density of the fluids in the blood and

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the cerebrospinal fluid and it was actually
changed sufficiently enough for it to flow

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back against the pressure of the heart.
Right

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So circulation improves brain function. So
if we have the bed on an angle, we are again

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improving circulation.
See, what I am trying to convey to anyone

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that is willing to listen is we have an assumption
that bed's should be flat.

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Now if we go back to history, there is a brilliant
drawing with a hospital in Constantinople

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in the 13th century and it shows rows of Inclined
Beds. It is perfectly obvious that the artist

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hasn't got mistaken. They are inclined, because
the nurse standing next to the bed, you can

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actually see that it is up level almost level
with her shoulders at the head end. At the

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foot end you can see that the legs are definitely
shorter.

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So Constantinople at that time were renowned
for being very successful medical people.

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Which is really interesting.
But if we go back further still, the ancient

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Egyptians, 5 thousand years ago, when we pulled
out the beds from the Egyptian Tombs, they

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were all raised at the head end. They were
all higher than the foot end. Even Tutankhamen's

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camping bed, he had a fold up camping bed
and that was built on an incline.

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No one bothered to question why these beds
were inclined? I guess they all had diamonds

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and gold and jewels in their hands and very
little in their brains.

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Right
Talk to me a little bit more about eyesight

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and how common might it be to repair a macular.
I have a friend over in Brixham and he has

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diabetes and he had bleeding from the back
of the eyes and he was told that he needed

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surgery and the guy is 82, he was told that
he needed laser surgery, and that it might

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not be successful and that eyes were worsening
and his eyes healed up all by themselves.

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And during a holiday he went away for a holiday
and then slept flat the eyes started to bleed

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again from the back of his eyes.
And since he has been back on an inclined

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bed they have stopped bleeding again.
But interestingly enough, while he has been

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on the sloping bed, his sugar levels have
been dropping as well. And this was confirmed

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in, well it's the first study, I am really
really grateful to a guy called Tetaaki Yee

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Ting and he is from an Island called Pohnpei,
in Micronesia, which is just North East of

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Australia and they have a tremendous problem
with obesity in this place, due to the introduction

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of the American diet and possibly soya that
you mentioned. Well, it's a pandemic on the

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island, but he got 11 patients to tilt their
beds. Right across the board the sugar levels

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dropped. Now just by tilting the bed, they
didn't make any dietary changes. But two of

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them, he noticed that their sugar levels had
gone up at one point and he investigated why

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they should go in the opposite direction and
they both admitted that they hadn't been on

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the sloping bed and one had been binging out
at a wedding for 2 days and the other had

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been binging out at a funeral for 2 days and
apparently when they went back to the inclined

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bed, their sugar levels come down as well.
So increasing the functionality of the pancreas?

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Yes
And have you heard of anybody getting completely

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over their diabetes?
Well again this guy in Brixham his insulin,

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he takes insulin and he has noticed, well
both of them have noticed that the insulin

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injection levels have dropped from 26 twice
a day of the slow and a dose of the fast.

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He has skipped the fast insulin and skipped
the one dose of the slow and I think he is

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on about 15 or 16 units now.
So that's a massive improvement from just

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tilting the bed. But of course diet plays
a roll as we know with diabetes.

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Well very much so. I am type one diabetic,
myself and it's.

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Have you noticed any change?
No not really.

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No I don't think so.
Just to clarify to people, I understand that

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the six inch measurement is to be adhered
to, five inches or seven inches does not work

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as good?
No, it all depends on the length of the bed,

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if you have got a King-sized bed you will
probably have to raise your bed you will probably

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have to raise the bed 7 or 7 and a half inches.
Oh I see

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Because whatever the length of the bed is,
if you have got a cot to prevent sudden infant

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death syndrome, they you will probably need
to raise that cot about 3 or 4 inches at the

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head end.
So it all depends on the length of the bed

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really.
I have a friend who she sleeps on what could

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be the North face of the eiger.
I just shake ny head when I see her bed. But

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she is 72 years young and back in 1995 she
was ready for a wheelchair and she has a condition

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called psoriatic arthritis, which eats into
her finger nails and toe nails and psoriasis

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all over her body and in her hair and she
was racked with pain, she would get up every

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morning and she would immerse her hands in
hot water just to get the hands working. And

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it would take about an hour and a half to
get her hands working. Then she would bite

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the bullet and do what she could and then
she heard me talking to this guy with who

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was staying with her at the time, this guy
with the spinal cord injury and this lady

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was a nurse. So she stood and listened and
she said who have you got coming down here

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now, somebody talking another load of old
bull? But she sat there and she listened and

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you could see that the penny had dropped.
And she tilted her own bed, she didn't say

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anything to anybody, but she got up the next
morning and no paralysis in her hands and

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it hasn't come back. And she has got virtually
no psoriasis on her body now. Occasionally

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she will get a little rosette on the base
of her spine and that's it.

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Wow that's amazing and why do you think that
the psoriasis went away, what do you think

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the mechanism going on there is?
Psoriasis skin contains a great deal more

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sodium and potassium than normal healthy skin,
so the sloping bed could have actually helped

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those minerals to migrate away from the skin
surface. You know, like when you put the lugols

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on the skin and it vanishes, the same could
be happening with the mineral salts which

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are probably causing the skin to dessicate.
Going back to the Lugol's iodine, how long

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have you been doing four drops because four
drops is quite a lot?

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Five days
Oh that's fine

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Are you taking selenium as well?
Not at the moment. I am reluctant to eat Brazil

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nuts because I a bit worried about them being
irradiated.

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Yes, who knows what they are doing radiation
wise, I don't know? There are a number of

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ways to get selenium in supplement form. Those
made from yeast which is the type I sell on

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my website.
Yes

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Because when you take iodine it depletes your
selenium level, it is a really good idea to

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take selenium at the same time.
You do get selenium from meat and eggs.

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Well yes indeed but even so, really I try
to recommend supplementing with anything if

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they can afford it is to take the whole set
of 90 odd nutrients at once because there

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are so many people low on just one mineral
and many people are low on selenium because

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it just isn't there in the soils like it used
to be.

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There would be a huge reduction in prostate
issues if we all had a good mineral balance

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with selenium and zinc for example.
Tell me more of the results that you are getting,

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it really is an amazing isn't it, just such
a simple thing can have such a dramatic affect

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it is incredible, I can't think of anything
else that doesn't cost any money, it's free!

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That's the problem. because it's free people
think it's worthless but what a mistake that

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is.
Well clearly, so tell me about some of the

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other wonderful things you have seen.
Well this guy that I mentioned with Parkinson's.

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Now Parkinson's is really interesting because
in the early stages, the person affected by

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the Parkinson's can wake up paralysed in the
morning so they get morning paralysis,

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What happens is the partner usually drags
them up the bed and sits them up a little

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bit and they come around a little bit more,
then they swing their legs out over the bed

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and get them sitting up and they come around
a little bit more. Then they get them to stand

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and they come around a little bit more, then
they get them to shuffle around and their

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gait improves and they start walking around
and by the end of the day they are walking

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around like you and I.
And then they go back to their flat beds and

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screw it all up again.
How interesting.

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Yes
Night time paralysis that has been reduced,

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when people wake up and their body is in a
catatonic state.

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My wife suffers with it but furtunately since
the bed has been on an angle she very rarely

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gets a problem with this.
Now it was happening 4 or 5 sometimes 6 times

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in a night and she could be getting it every
day and it has made such a huge difference

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just preventing that.
What else? I really don't know where to start.

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Let me just ask you on ms and Parkinson's
have you seen any body get anywhere close

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to completely reversing it?
Well, I am glad you brought me back to that

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because I tend to drift off because it's quite
a complicated subject.

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Back to the guy with Parkinson's who we tilted
his bed.

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Apart from all the fluid that the guy had
lost, I get a phone call saying that I turned

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over in bed and looked at my husbands face
and that Parkinson's mask which she had grown

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to recognise every night that she went to
bed wasn't there, his face was relaxed and

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it looked like her own husband had come back.
So she shook him and she said that she had

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had the first conversation with her husband
in years, it was incredible.

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And then a few more weeks went passed and
his walking was improving all of the time,

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I was getting reports back all of the time
and they couldn't believe the changes. His

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attention span when I met the guy was about
1 minute at best and then he would go into

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sleep, then he would come back out of his
sleep and we would have a little talk and

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00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:37,520
try and get something through to him and he
would be gone again and it was heart breaking

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00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:44,520
to see the couple struggling and a few more
weeks went passed and I went around there

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00:52:45,950 --> 00:52:52,369
and knocked on the door, Because I was hearing
all of these incredible stories and when I

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00:52:52,369 --> 00:52:59,170
opened the door who should meet me was this
guy called Brian and it was the same guy that

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was like a giant water balloon when I met
him with an attention span of a minute.

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To a normal looking guy who could walk normally
with normal gait and he said, well he thanked

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00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:21,160
me on the step and that turned my legs to
jelly and he said do you want to talk to xxxxxxxxx

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00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:28,839
Hang on a minute I will go and get her. I
watched the guy walk up the stairs shouted

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00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:34,890
his misses, turned around and then walked
back down.

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And we went in and had an amazing conversation
and then a couple of weeks later, I get another

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call saying that she is concerned and this
happened very quickly, I know it sounds ridiculous

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00:53:48,859 --> 00:53:55,859
but it happened very very quickly,. He had
already been taking himself down to see his

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granddaughters playing at school in the sports
and he would bring himself back no problem

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at all.
And another week or two went passed and she

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00:54:10,109 --> 00:54:17,109
said I had seen him go out and look at the
car and lift the bonnet and she didn't think

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00:54:17,790 --> 00:54:24,540
anything of it. I shouldn't really say anything
because I could get them in trouble but he

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had drove off in the car and come back.
Wow that's amazing, you must be feeling pretty

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good about yourself I think?
Well the icing on the cake and I will tell

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you exactly as it happened.
I get a phone call. Somebody asked me about

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the bull terrier; what would a male bull terrier
be like around a severely disabled child?

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00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:54,180
I said, what's the matter with your kid?
She said; why do you want to know?

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00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:58,940
I said, I might be able to help.
She said don't be bloody ridiculous she said

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00:54:58,940 --> 00:55:05,940
I rang for information about a puppy you know
to see what a bull terrier would be like around

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a severely disabled child.
I said, well look I can't make you listen

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00:55:10,109 --> 00:55:15,690
She said spit it out then
And I told her and she said, I have been half

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way around the world nothing can be done for
my daughter.

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I said look I can't make you listen
Anyway she starts crying because the penny

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00:55:25,790 --> 00:55:27,900
has dropped having explained everything in
great detail.

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Her husband then comes on the phone and he
gives me a right rollocking down the phone,

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00:55:33,950 --> 00:55:38,040
saying you have upset my misses what have
you said to my misses? And she said no listen

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00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,339
to what he has to say so I have to explain
it all over again, but anyway to cut a long

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story short, they tilted the girls bed.
Now she is 12 years of age and she hasn't

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00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:53,240
walked to the age of 12, she wears callipers
day times and night times to keep the legs

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00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:58,210
straight, different set of callipers for on
the night-time. Anybody that has a child with

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00:55:58,210 --> 00:56:04,349
cerebral palsy will know what I am taking
about. She had severe scoliosis of the spine

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00:56:04,349 --> 00:56:10,000
and the prognosis in 1995 was if she ever
developed the ability to come or brush her

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00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,849
own hair let us know but don't hold your breath
because it will never happen.

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00:56:14,849 --> 00:56:19,309
That's what the parents were told and they
had gone half way around the world looking

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00:56:19,309 --> 00:56:24,480
for help for this girl and I started to get
some reports back.

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00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:30,480
Yes she is doing really well, things are changing
but we are not really sure what is changing

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00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,799
and a few more weeks would go past and then
I would get another report and occasionally

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00:56:35,799 --> 00:56:41,990
I'd ring up and ask how she's doing?
And she said oh she seems to be stronger,

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00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:48,990
but we could be imagining this you know.
I mean the girl is very clever very articulate

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00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:55,619
and then a few more weeks go past and yeah
she is definitely getting stronger and she

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00:56:55,619 --> 00:57:00,849
has turned over in bed and she couldn't do
that before and later she was turning over

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00:57:00,849 --> 00:57:05,160
all of the time.
And she is managing to pull herself up the

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00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:12,160
bed and it was incredible as this was unfolding
it was absolutely incredible and a few more

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weeks go past; yes she is making so much progress
that the muscles in the legs are looking too

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00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:27,040
masculine. Now this is a girl that hadn't
got muscles because she hadn't walked. Well

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00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:30,890
the muscles were there but they hadn't been
exercised.

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00:57:30,890 --> 00:57:35,150
And they said that the muscles were looking
far too masculine so we have put the bed back

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00:57:35,150 --> 00:57:38,040
down?
Immediately they had put the bed back down

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00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,470
she started to revert back, so they put the
bed back up.

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00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:48,900
And then it went on for quite a few months
and the icing on the cake came at 8 months

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00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:55,900
when got a frantic call from the mum, she
said we are off to the school, I said whatever

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00:57:57,630 --> 00:58:03,359
has happened, She said we have just had a
call saying that our girl had got out of the

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00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:09,890
wheelchair at school, walked at school and
managed to to walk up some steps.

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12 years of age.
Now it get's even better, because some time

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had passed and there were more improvements,
she clothed herself, and I believe is functioning

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00:58:22,940 --> 00:58:29,220
like any healthy person now.
I got a call straight out of the blue, and

561
00:58:29,220 --> 00:58:36,220
picked up the phone and I heard this child
say hello is that Andrew? I said yes. She

562
00:58:37,260 --> 00:58:40,990
said I am the little girl that you have been
helping with cerebral palsy and I am just

563
00:58:40,990 --> 00:58:44,480
ringing to say thank you for all that you
have done for me.

564
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:51,480
My legs went to jelly and I collapsed on the
floor. I could not stand up.

565
00:58:52,250 --> 00:58:56,380
How amazing.
And so cerebral palsy it just doesn't get

566
00:58:56,380 --> 00:59:00,640
much worse than that does it?
Irreversible brain damage, but I like these

567
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:06,270
irreversible conditions because they appear
to be reversible.

568
00:59:06,270 --> 00:59:12,680
Well I found that out myself 28 years ago,
I had arthritis so badly that I couldn't move

569
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:18,750
or put my shoes and socks on and they said
that it was irreversible and they were completely

570
00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:19,829
wrong.
Yes

571
00:59:19,829 --> 00:59:26,599
I was low on vitamins and minerals. I reversed
the whole thing and never had a problem since.

572
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:31,349
And just shortly after that my dad's best
friend got cancer and he was told that he

573
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:36,640
had six weeks to live and he managed to phone
up Linus Pauling, who he had found in the

574
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,720
phone book and said what do I do? and Linus
Pauling said build up slowly but as fast as

575
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,119
you can to 25 grams of vitamin C per day and
he lived another 25 years.

576
00:59:46,119 --> 00:59:49,950
Wow
And when he did die it wasn't of cancer. So

577
00:59:49,950 --> 00:59:55,650
I saw first hand with this.
I just heard an interesting story where a

578
00:59:55,650 --> 01:00:02,650
lady that tried the cannabis oil for a brain
tumour and the brain tumour has vanished.

579
01:00:05,380 --> 01:00:12,200
Well it's one of the best successful remedies
out there.

580
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:19,200
You can't verify that yourself because I haven't
been privy to the mri scans or anything but

581
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:25,400
no reason to doubt what I was told..
This is my dog drinking in the background,

582
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,690
sorry.
One of the things that people don't understand

583
01:00:30,690 --> 01:00:37,690
is that you don't need an mri scan or an X-ray
or anything like that to tell whether your

584
01:00:38,099 --> 01:00:45,099
cancer is getting better or getting worse,
there are several blood tests that can be

585
01:00:46,859 --> 01:00:51,549
done very cheaply, harmlessly, which are probably
a lot more accurate because people don't realise

586
01:00:51,549 --> 01:00:57,440
that some of these scans, particularly a cat
scan, which can be 500 -600 times more powerful

587
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,690
than a chest x-ray for example. People don't
realise the damage that they are doing by

588
01:01:02,690 --> 01:01:04,500
the testing.
Yes

589
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:09,680
When a perfectly good, very inexpensive natural
ways to do it.

590
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,119
Yes
Another thing that people don't realise is

591
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:18,119
that you can have a chemotherapy test so that
what happens is that if somebody gets cancer

592
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:23,319
they just put them on chemotherapy but they
could for a little bit more money test the

593
01:01:23,319 --> 01:01:30,319
cells of their body against all these different
agents, chemotherapy agents, same as with

594
01:01:30,490 --> 01:01:35,799
fillings of teeth a dentist who knows what
he is doing can test the filling material

595
01:01:35,799 --> 01:01:39,480
to see whether it is compatible with you.
So there are loads of people who are having

596
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,790
very bad reactions from chemo for example
That if they had done a simple test, they

597
01:01:43,790 --> 01:01:49,319
could have avoided that. Personally I think
it is absolutely criminal what is going on

598
01:01:49,319 --> 01:01:52,790
in the medical profession.
I agree I agree

599
01:01:52,790 --> 01:01:59,609
And it is not that most doctors are anything
other than lovely people but the method of

600
01:01:59,609 --> 01:02:06,319
teaching them a drugs only way of testing
and a radiation only way and a surgery only

601
01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:08,829
way.
You know you go to the doctor and you have

602
01:02:08,829 --> 01:02:14,559
got these three choices and it is just ridiculous.
I realised some time ago that people go to

603
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:19,549
the doctor believing that a doctor is a health
expert, after all it is called a National

604
01:02:19,549 --> 01:02:23,950
Health Service, but they don't study health,
you know health isn't on the curriculum, they

605
01:02:23,950 --> 01:02:30,740
study disease, they study drugs, but at no
point do doctors look at healthy people to

606
01:02:30,740 --> 01:02:35,380
examine why they are healthy, it is incredible.
It is a sickness industry yeah

607
01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:42,380
Yeah very much so.
So do you think, I am asking a silly question

608
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:48,089
in a way but do you think there is any chance
that doctors in general the NHS in general

609
01:02:48,089 --> 01:02:55,089
would ever accept Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT)
It's practised for respiratory problems, but

610
01:02:55,770 --> 01:03:01,260
again they tend to elevate the upper half
of the bed and not tilt the whole bed. And

611
01:03:01,260 --> 01:03:08,260
again this guy with diabetes was in a hospital
ward having broken his femur and I was invited

612
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:17,470
over there to tilt the bed and to talk to
the doctors and nurses. I talked to the doctors

613
01:03:17,470 --> 01:03:21,950
and nurses but I could not tilt that bed.
It just had not got the capability of being

614
01:03:21,950 --> 01:03:25,359
tilted correctly.
And they said that it was one of the most

615
01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:32,010
modern beds that there is.
There are beds out there that will do it and

616
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:37,599
one of the interesting things that they use
the full titling bed for is when someone comes

617
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:43,569
out of surgery under anaesthetic because they
tilt them head down and feet up.

618
01:03:43,569 --> 01:03:50,569
I have actually been in the recovery room
while my son was coming out of anaesthetic

619
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,670
and I asked them why he was head down and
feet up?

620
01:03:55,670 --> 01:04:01,069
They said well it is in case he is sick, so
that the vomit will clear the airways.

621
01:04:01,069 --> 01:04:06,230
I said well have you thought that you might
be making him sick by tilting him upside down?

622
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:11,750
The look of bewilderment on her face.
I said well, I'll tell you what, if you tilt

623
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:17,700
his bed his oxygen sats will go up, his heart
rate will decreases by by 10 -12 beats per

624
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:24,569
minute, his respiration rate will decrease
by 4-5 breaths per minute and within a few

625
01:04:24,569 --> 01:04:31,569
minutes or possibly less he will come out
of his induced anaesthesia. She said well

626
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:39,970
it will take about 20 minutes for him to come
out and as soon as she tilted his bed, the

627
01:04:39,970 --> 01:04:44,809
monitors went exactly as I had predicted they
would go and he put his thumb up and said

628
01:04:44,809 --> 01:04:49,220
I am ok Dad.
He got up and he wasn't sick.

629
01:04:49,220 --> 01:04:54,470
Fantastic
And the nurse came back the ward where my

630
01:04:54,470 --> 01:05:01,470
son was being kept and my wife was at the
ward and she kept saying that it is incredible

631
01:05:03,450 --> 01:05:09,910
what I have just witnessed, she said this
alone could save the NHS a fortune in recovery

632
01:05:09,910 --> 01:05:14,660
times. We have got to do something about it.
But nothing ever happens.

633
01:05:14,660 --> 01:05:19,940
You get lots and lots of promises from lots
of people and nothing ever happens. Except

634
01:05:19,940 --> 01:05:26,940
for that study in Pohnpei, that was incredible.
But it has been a long old struggle and of

635
01:05:31,289 --> 01:05:37,280
course the theory all started from picking
up, I don't know whether you can see, this

636
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,480
GCSE Biology book.
Oh alright

637
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:46,480
I will hold it up so that everyone can see,
it's by D.G.McKean

638
01:05:46,609 --> 01:05:53,609
I wanted to understand what trees were doing
with salts, that was the question that I had

639
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,650
and I have an engineering background, so I
got this from the car boot sale it cost me

640
01:05:57,650 --> 01:06:03,420
twenty pence because I am a cheapskate and
wouldn't buy a new version.

641
01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:07,869
I started to look through it and I just shook
my head and I couldn't believe what I was

642
01:06:07,869 --> 01:06:13,460
reading, for example, Transport in Plants,
Chapter 7 page 71.

643
01:06:13,460 --> 01:06:19,270
"Water evaporates from the leaves and causes
a kind of suction which pulls water up the

644
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:21,619
stem".
Now hang on let's have a think about this

645
01:06:21,619 --> 01:06:27,390
for a second. We have a leaf that is full
of pores, which are holes and you are telling

646
01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:33,369
me that those leaves can drag water 300 feet
to the top of a giant Californian Redwood?

647
01:06:33,369 --> 01:06:40,270
I couldn't stop falling about laughing. It
was absolutely ridiculous that that was being

648
01:06:40,270 --> 01:06:43,829
taught in schools and I do remember it from
school.

649
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:50,829
But because of D.G. McKean who pus in his
comments and he will add a little add on saying

650
01:06:54,619 --> 01:06:59,410
that there is insufficient evidence or that
it is poorly understood and time and time

651
01:06:59,410 --> 01:07:04,599
again.
Many biologists regard transpiration as an

652
01:07:04,599 --> 01:07:11,599
inevitable consequence of photosynthesis in
order to photosynthesise, a leaf has to take

653
01:07:11,869 --> 01:07:17,740
in carbon dioxide from the air and the pathway
which allows carbon dioxide in will also let

654
01:07:17,740 --> 01:07:22,480
water vapour out.
Now if you have got a leaf with holes that

655
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:27,650
is causing this magical suction, now surely
it is going to suck air in because that is

656
01:07:27,650 --> 01:07:32,630
going to be the path of least resistance.
So if you are generating a magical suction

657
01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:38,369
you are going to be drawing air in, but of
course that doesn't happen.

658
01:07:38,369 --> 01:07:43,609
The other thing I read was "You may have learned
in physics that you cannot drawer water up

659
01:07:43,609 --> 01:07:49,730
by suction to a height of more than about
10 meters. But many trees are taller than

660
01:07:49,730 --> 01:07:56,359
this. So I thought now there is a contradiction
in itself and there was just loads and loads

661
01:07:56,359 --> 01:07:58,490
of errors.
They are still marked, these are the original

662
01:07:58,490 --> 01:08:05,430
marks that were put in the book all those
years ago, when I was falling about the floor

663
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:12,430
laughing, so I said Ok then how does it really
work?

664
01:08:13,109 --> 01:08:20,049
It took me 20 minutes to solve it. I though,
I will ignore all the stuff that doesn't make

665
01:08:20,049 --> 01:08:27,049
sense, which is about 99.9% of the book, and
start with what I know as a fact.

666
01:08:27,449 --> 01:08:32,630
I knew that 98% of all the water evaporates
through the leaves so the water that is drawn

667
01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:36,949
in through the roots evaporates through the
leaves.

668
01:08:36,949 --> 01:08:43,949
And evaporated water must change the density
of whatever it is evaporated from and that's

669
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:48,900
the sap.
Now the sap contains sugars which are produced

670
01:08:48,900 --> 01:08:55,900
by converting carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
and sugars as we know are denser than water

671
01:08:57,630 --> 01:09:02,719
so when we evaporate water from the leaf we
change the density of the sap.

672
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:09,370
That is so bloody obvious and yet no one has
thought about it?

673
01:09:09,370 --> 01:09:13,080
So hang on if you make the sap denser at the
top of the tree than at the bottom of the

674
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:19,040
tree gravity dictates that the denser sap
will migrate towards a sink and that sink

675
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,850
could be a fruit, could be a branch, could
be the trunk or could be a root. Predominantly

676
01:09:23,850 --> 01:09:27,140
the roots.
So we have triggered a downward flow towards

677
01:09:27,140 --> 01:09:33,980
the roots, now the tree takes up most of these
salts and sugars in it's continual cycle of

678
01:09:33,980 --> 01:09:40,980
growth so there is the sump or the store,
so any concentrated sap that reaches the roots

679
01:09:43,069 --> 01:09:50,069
would be diluted by incoming water from the
soil, which is a dilute solution of nutrients.

680
01:09:52,839 --> 01:09:57,920
That sap then is dragged back up the other
side of the tree, so we have a downward flow

681
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:03,400
generated by evaporation and gravity in the
phloem, which generates molecular drag and

682
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:10,400
that molecular drag is attached to every molecule
in the tree and stretches right back down

683
01:10:10,420 --> 01:10:16,170
the xylem right the way down through the roots
and out into the soil water, so by triggering

684
01:10:16,170 --> 01:10:21,370
that downward flow we are actually pulling
water in from the soil into the tree, it's

685
01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:26,900
almost like if you can imagine the sap behaving
like a piece of string and every now and again

686
01:10:26,900 --> 01:10:33,300
we clip a weight on the one side and that
causes the whole thing to rotate, so the tree

687
01:10:33,300 --> 01:10:40,300
never needed to lift water from the roots
to it's leaves. That was the mistake. They

688
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:46,420
asked the wrong question.
The wrong question was how do trees raise

689
01:10:46,420 --> 01:10:51,130
water from the roots to the leaves.
The question that they should have asked was

690
01:10:51,130 --> 01:10:58,130
"Howe do trees circulate sap?" And then the
answer would have been so blatantly obvious

691
01:10:59,150 --> 01:11:06,150
and yet we are still teaching this in school?
I even set up an experiment at the local secondary

692
01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:13,980
school in Paignton and the head of Science
Mr Smith saw the tubular model which I had

693
01:11:13,980 --> 01:11:20,190
strung out of his upper classroom windows,
which was a giant inverted U shape tube with

694
01:11:20,190 --> 01:11:24,530
both open ends submerged in two bottles of
water and the whole loop of tubing was filled

695
01:11:24,530 --> 01:11:30,080
with water and a tiny amount of coloured salt
solution, only 5 ml of salt solution was added

696
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:34,270
to the centre of the tube, which was then
raised to the upper classroom.

697
01:11:34,270 --> 01:11:40,230
The salts peculated down one side, one bottle
starts to over flow and the other bottle level

698
01:11:40,230 --> 01:11:45,469
goes down and it is not a siphon effect because
if you trigger a siphon it is much quicker.

699
01:11:45,469 --> 01:11:51,480
This is a flow and a return flow driven by
evaporation and gravity.

700
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:55,920
The school kids were there and they all listened
and they all saw the experiment and they were

701
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,650
all very excited.
And he pit's his hand up and says he has no

702
01:11:59,650 --> 01:12:05,230
problem with this, this is exactly how trees
raise water to the leaves but what can I do

703
01:12:05,230 --> 01:12:09,679
about it? I have to keep teaching the National
Curriculum.

704
01:12:09,679 --> 01:12:15,620
It's crazy, this is the National Fools system
not the National Schools system.

705
01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:20,940
Yes
I even took it to Exeter University, I took

706
01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:26,370
it to, well it's been there a couple of times,
to Professor Edzard Ernst

707
01:12:26,370 --> 01:12:28,390
Have you heard of Ernst?
No

708
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:35,390
He is the guy in charge of alternative therapies,
I suspect he is there to make sure that these

709
01:12:36,620 --> 01:12:43,620
alternative therapies never get off the ground
and I was invited in there to give a talk

710
01:12:43,850 --> 01:12:50,850
about the discovery and there was a team there
of Doctors and Ernst and they saw the experiments

711
01:12:52,590 --> 01:12:58,550
and heard the explanation, thoroughly agreed
with it, sent me a letter saying they were

712
01:12:58,550 --> 01:13:05,429
very excited by it and we need to get a study
done and what best would the study be conducted

713
01:13:05,429 --> 01:13:08,060
in?
I said well varicose veins and leg ulcers

714
01:13:08,060 --> 01:13:15,060
because they have shown remarkable recoveries
and he said well we need to see this doctor

715
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,489
and I won't mention the doctors name although
I should mention the doctors name.

716
01:13:19,489 --> 01:13:26,489
I had an invitation to go and see this doctor
and as soon as I walked in the door he said

717
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:31,590
are you My Fletcher? I said yes, He said;
"Before you say a word, I don't want anything

718
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:38,590
to do with you, your theory, your explanations
or any possible study do I make myself clear?"

719
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:45,170
I said Oh Yeah perfectly and then I came away.
So he had quickly realised that him being

720
01:13:45,170 --> 01:13:52,170
a vascular guy depended on repeat vascular
surgeries to make his lucrative living and

721
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,000
the last thing he wants to hear is that a
couple of blocks of wood under someone's bed

722
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:02,000
could prevent someone from having vascular
surgery.

723
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:07,650
It's close to murder taking that view point
for a doctor isn't it, knowing that there

724
01:14:07,650 --> 01:14:13,020
is a cure and not taking it up that is murder
isn't it?

725
01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:16,230
It's disgraceful, I wouldn't say that it was
murder.

726
01:14:16,230 --> 01:14:20,590
But it is definitely disgraceful.
Well it is if their patients die.

727
01:14:20,590 --> 01:14:24,590
He is lucky I am now mature because when I
was a youngster I would have levelled the

728
01:14:24,590 --> 01:14:29,159
guy but there you go.
You grow up as you get older don't you.

729
01:14:29,159 --> 01:14:35,420
Well yes supposedly that's what they say.
Talk to me a bit more about the leg ulcer

730
01:14:35,420 --> 01:14:39,620
thing, again do you have a good explanation
as to why that is happening?

731
01:14:39,620 --> 01:14:46,150
Yeah again it is tissue breakdown because
of circulation, it is always circulation,

732
01:14:46,150 --> 01:14:52,000
circulation is so important because without
circulation we are dust and bones. So anything

733
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:59,000
that compromises the circulation be it a varicose
ulcer or a pressure ulcer, what you have done

734
01:14:59,340 --> 01:15:06,340
you have actually impinged the circulation
by an external pressure be that a vein or

735
01:15:07,610 --> 01:15:12,710
coming in contact with a bed or a chair for
a prolonged period of time but if you can

736
01:15:12,710 --> 01:15:18,170
restore that circulation and the sloping bed
excels in that because when you lay on the

737
01:15:18,170 --> 01:15:24,050
sloping bed, you will know this, your weight
is distributed differently, you are no longer

738
01:15:24,050 --> 01:15:31,050
feel like a sack of spuds lying on the ground.
The bed feels somehow softer and the you have

739
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:36,840
applied traction to the spine but you have
also applied some sheer forces to the tissue,

740
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:43,360
which people have voiced concerns about, but
you have also increased the circulation and

741
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:49,690
if you can increase the circulation you can
speed up the healing and my Father had varicose

742
01:15:49,690 --> 01:15:56,690
ulcers for 25 years and he was a window cleaner,
a hard many, you will never meet a harder

743
01:15:57,239 --> 01:16:02,610
man. When he died of cancer he never took
so much as a paracetamol.

744
01:16:02,610 --> 01:16:09,610
He had 3 leg ulcers and they healed up while
he was on the sloping bed. Just healed up,

745
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:19,420
skinned over. They had never done that in
25 years, despite that he had all of the bandages,

746
01:16:19,420 --> 01:16:26,420
the seaweed, bandages on his legs and regular
dressings, he had dressed his legs all of

747
01:16:28,850 --> 01:16:35,850
these years.
That is amazing, 25 years of leg ulcers, incredible.

748
01:16:38,050 --> 01:16:43,080
So if it is improving circulation presumably
you are getting results with erectile dysfunction?

749
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:50,080
Yes, we have had reports of erectile dysfunction,
even in type two diabetes.

750
01:16:50,850 --> 01:16:57,850
Well, that's very interesting
Yes, and early morning wood I think it's called,

751
01:17:00,030 --> 01:17:07,030
get a lot of reports on that.
I have interviewed a chap called Tony Pantalleresco

752
01:17:09,449 --> 01:17:16,449
once or twice and he has testosterone boosting
formula and I thought well I will give that

753
01:17:18,270 --> 01:17:22,110
a try and see if I notice any differences.
And I went to the International anti-ageing

754
01:17:22,110 --> 01:17:29,110
conference, two weeks ago and they had all
the latest measuring equipment and so on and

755
01:17:29,469 --> 01:17:34,360
I went on several of the devices to get my
levels measured and this guy says I can't

756
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:40,460
believe it you have got the testosterone of
a thirty year old, I was really chuffed you

757
01:17:40,460 --> 01:17:43,310
know.
But if anyone is interested in boosting their

758
01:17:43,310 --> 01:17:49,770
testosterone levels apart from inclined the
bed check out Tony Pantalleresco and erectile

759
01:17:49,770 --> 01:17:53,949
dysfunction on Youtube.
Have you come across Tony?

760
01:17:53,949 --> 01:18:00,360
Yes I have seen some of his videos, yeah
He is fantastic, my fridge is full of his

761
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:06,190
concoctions.
Yeah he is quite an amazing guy yeah.

762
01:18:06,190 --> 01:18:13,190
Absolutely
So we have run through quite a number of complaints,

763
01:18:14,730 --> 01:18:18,900
what other things have you noticed?
One of the first things we noticed and again

764
01:18:18,900 --> 01:18:25,900
this is how it happens, it is just nothing
is planed we have gone down this ally, shine

765
01:18:26,030 --> 01:18:33,030
the light down and follow the light beam.
I met a lady and she was a palmist

766
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:41,409
and she pointed out about the half moons on
your fingers, how important they were for

767
01:18:41,409 --> 01:18:45,110
circulation, she said always look at the half
moons when we are reading someone's hands

768
01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:49,960
and we can tell a great deal I forget the
formula but she said if they are too big there

769
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:54,760
is a problem with the heart, if they are too
small there is a problem with the circulation

770
01:18:54,760 --> 01:19:01,760
and she said that she can tell a great deal.
The strange thing is since I have had my bed

771
01:19:01,770 --> 01:19:06,290
tilted my half moons have come back.
That's really interesting. It's rare that

772
01:19:06,290 --> 01:19:10,060
you see any that apart from having half moons
on their thumbs that they have half moons

773
01:19:10,060 --> 01:19:13,860
at all.
I have a full set of half moons

774
01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:20,670
Very good.
The other guy John the guy's name with spinal

775
01:19:20,670 --> 01:19:27,670
cord injury apparently Afro-Caribbean's seldome
have half moons and he, well actually he was

776
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:34,830
African-American he got half moons on his
fingers as well which was quite incredible.

777
01:19:34,890 --> 01:19:41,890
And hair as well, that was another thing.
I started to notice again it was rather embarrassing

778
01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:49,230
moment a nurse friend of mine she said I have
got a complaint about this bed. I said tell

779
01:19:49,230 --> 01:19:55,920
me more, I am having to sheer my pubic hairs,
she said because they won't stop growing they

780
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:02,920
are no longer short and curly's and I thought
that was fascinating because if you can maintain

781
01:20:03,010 --> 01:20:08,449
the circulation to the hair then there is
no reason why it should drop out.

782
01:20:08,449 --> 01:20:13,650
So I started to monitor my own hair on my
head and I noticed that the colour had changed

783
01:20:13,650 --> 01:20:19,820
and it had started to go darker although you
can't see a great deal here but I noticed

784
01:20:19,820 --> 01:20:25,719
that I stopped getting hair on my pillows,
now this was also backed up by Roger Kirk

785
01:20:25,719 --> 01:20:32,719
who I mentioned earlier with multiple sclerosis,
because Roger said quite off the cuff, "How

786
01:20:33,690 --> 01:20:40,690
come my hair brush has got no hair in it any
more? I used to spend ages picking all of

787
01:20:41,150 --> 01:20:45,889
the hair out of the brush and I don't find
hair in the shower any more?"

788
01:20:45,889 --> 01:20:52,889
So I did an experiment and I have my hair
cut as you can see it's one style every time

789
01:20:54,050 --> 01:20:59,690
and my wife she cuts my hair so we were having
it cut at two monthly intervals and I was

790
01:20:59,690 --> 01:21:05,690
saving all the hair in these little tins and
I saved them up for a whole year.

791
01:21:05,690 --> 01:21:10,659
I looked across the hair follicles and there
was a definite change in the hair texture

792
01:21:10,659 --> 01:21:15,260
and a definite change in the hair colour,
it was getting darker.

793
01:21:15,260 --> 01:21:22,260
And also there was more hair, so my hair was
growing more more which is we are led to believe

794
01:21:26,710 --> 01:21:32,989
any way that it is not going to happen.
Anyway it was fascinating and I really don't

795
01:21:32,989 --> 01:21:38,860
think and I have still got more hair than
my younger brother.

796
01:21:38,860 --> 01:21:45,860
Well brilliant, do you know a very funny thing
about 20 years ago I met this guy who insisted

797
01:21:47,150 --> 01:21:52,300
that I touched his head and he had like this
baby hair all over his head. He said that

798
01:21:52,300 --> 01:21:58,670
he had been bald for several years but he
had a back injury and he decided to help his

799
01:21:58,670 --> 01:22:02,690
back injury that he would get an inversion
table, where you strap your seat in and hang

800
01:22:02,690 --> 01:22:09,690
upside down for five minutes a day and after
a few months he noticed his hair re-growing

801
01:22:11,969 --> 01:22:16,159
it seemed that the blood flowing upside down
had stimulated his follicle growth.

802
01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:21,860
Well you are still using gravity if you are
upside down but the problem with being upside

803
01:22:21,860 --> 01:22:28,860
down and again my wife and I tested it.
Ok I will give you the full story. I wanted

804
01:22:34,230 --> 01:22:41,230
to understand if there are any changes to
the density of urine because we had tilted

805
01:22:41,290 --> 01:22:48,290
the bed, so we measured our urine density
using a hydrometer and we measured the urine

806
01:22:50,420 --> 01:22:55,219
density while we were on an angled bed head
up feet down

807
01:22:55,219 --> 01:22:59,940
And then we measured the urine density on
a flat bed

808
01:22:59,940 --> 01:23:05,219
and normal daily activity urine density
and head down density, so that we were lying

809
01:23:05,219 --> 01:23:12,219
head down with our feet up.
What we found was is that the flat bed actually

810
01:23:12,659 --> 01:23:19,659
lowered the urine density over and above normal
daily activity and it was quite remarkable

811
01:23:21,540 --> 01:23:28,540
how the salts were not being excreted in the
urine.

812
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:35,870
And the we measured the inclined bed and we
found that the urine density went up markedly

813
01:23:35,909 --> 01:23:41,960
so the urine was much stronger and much more
dense than either horizontal or normal daily

814
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:46,389
routines.
And the icing on the cake again came when

815
01:23:46,389 --> 01:23:52,679
we slept head down and feet up. What we found
was that the urine density went down to near

816
01:23:52,679 --> 01:23:58,280
water readings, in other words no toxins were
leaving the body while we were head down and

817
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:02,310
feet up.
The side spin on that was that we both got

818
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:09,310
diarrhoea, We did it for a few days and the
diarrhoea was quite persistent.

819
01:24:12,580 --> 01:24:19,580
Yes it would be a great slimming aid to sleep
head down and feet up. But NASA have spent

820
01:24:20,630 --> 01:24:27,199
thousands and thousands of dollars paying
people to, in fact I think you can get 7,000

821
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:31,969
dollars just for sleeping head down and feet
up with out getting out of bed for a few months.

822
01:24:31,969 --> 01:24:38,969
What they found is, is that they can accelerate
the ageing process by ten times faster than

823
01:24:39,020 --> 01:24:45,000
here on Earth and that mirrors exactly what
happens to astronauts in space, because you

824
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:50,500
have taken gravity out of the equation in
space. You have not actually but you have

825
01:24:50,500 --> 01:24:56,810
negated it's effects by spinning around the
Earth fast enough to counter act the pull

826
01:24:56,810 --> 01:24:59,940
of the Earth.
But you have not actually got away from gravity.

827
01:24:59,940 --> 01:25:06,940
But Astronauts, again back to the ebola virus
again their immune system in space gets knocked

828
01:25:08,650 --> 01:25:15,650
about. The bone mineral loss is prolific,
10 x faster that here on Earth, neurological

829
01:25:15,739 --> 01:25:22,739
damage has been experienced, multiple organ
failures from bed rest and from being in space.

830
01:25:26,730 --> 01:25:33,730
You know it just doesn't matter which way
you hit this from it just matches up.

831
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:41,530
Well amazing, and what other health issues
has it overcome?

832
01:25:41,530 --> 01:25:48,530
Let me give you one. How about lung function,
emphysema or anything like that,

833
01:25:56,670 --> 01:26:03,670
Yes this is a really interesting one. There
was a dog with it's lungs filling up with

834
01:26:04,770 --> 01:26:10,710
fluid, it was a rotweiler and it was having
it's lungs drained two times a week at the

835
01:26:10,710 --> 01:26:16,929
vets and the vet said I can't do this any
more and he had literally taken the dog home

836
01:26:16,929 --> 01:26:21,300
to die.
And a person that had been listening to my

837
01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:27,340
theory and my explanations and who had been
sleeping on a sloping bed, told him;, he said

838
01:26:27,340 --> 01:26:33,210
look just shove the dog in a room and put
the dehumidifier on. Because I had explained

839
01:26:33,210 --> 01:26:39,190
how my friends fish tank was being emptied
of water and his dehumidifier was filling

840
01:26:39,190 --> 01:26:43,239
up of water because he had dried the air out
so the water molecules were leaving the fish

841
01:26:43,239 --> 01:26:50,239
tank into the air and then into the dehumidifier
and he was forever topping up the fish tank

842
01:26:51,250 --> 01:26:56,840
so he put the dog in the room and left the
dehumidifier running and it cleared up the

843
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:02,320
fluid on the lungs. That was without the sloping
bed. But of course respiratory problems is

844
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:09,320
one of the things along with hiatus hernia
and gerd is is that the medical profession

845
01:27:10,219 --> 01:27:15,440
will actually recommend raising the head end
of the bed on blocks, So they know it does

846
01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:20,340
work.
But the worse thing is and I have seen this

847
01:27:20,340 --> 01:27:27,340
with my own eyes is that the nurses and the
doctors know full well how harmful the flat

848
01:27:30,449 --> 01:27:37,449
bed is and I'll just see if I can find you
the..... This is De conditioning, The Consequences

849
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:46,239
Of Bed-Rest By: Colleen S. Campbell MSN, ARNP
BC, CRRNA Geriatric Evaluation & Management

850
01:27:46,239 --> 01:27:49,370
(GEM)
Director Geriatric Research Education Clinical

851
01:27:49,370 --> 01:27:50,400
Center
(GRECC)

852
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,830
Objectives of this document is to
Discuss de conditioning as a clinical entity

853
01:27:54,830 --> 01:28:01,830
resulting in a reduced functional capacity
of multiple body systems

854
01:28:03,340 --> 01:28:08,840
Discuss the psychophysiology of prolonged
bed rest

855
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:14,360
List key interventions that prevent and treat
the consequences of bed rest.

856
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:19,650
Inactivity and prolonged bed rest are unnatural
states of the human body.

857
01:28:19,650 --> 01:28:26,650
And now this is a very very moving piece by
Doctor Richard Asher written in 1942.

858
01:28:28,659 --> 01:28:31,420
Look at the patient lying alone in bed

859
01:28:31,420 --> 01:28:34,730
What a pathetic picture he makes.
The blood clotting in his veins.

860
01:28:34,730 --> 01:28:40,920
The lime draining from his bones.
The scybola stacking up in his colon.

861
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:45,820
The flesh rotting from his seat.
The urine leaking from his distended bladder

862
01:28:45,820 --> 01:28:50,290
and the spirit evaporating from his soul.
Teach us to live that

863
01:28:50,290 --> 01:28:56,840
we may dread unnecessary time in bed.
Get people up and we may save

864
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,790
patients from an early grave.

865
01:28:59,790 --> 01:29:06,790
So they know but back to what I was going
to talk about was when someone is terminally

866
01:29:07,850 --> 01:29:14,850
ill there is a practice that is unwritten,
and it's the removal of pillows from terminally

867
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:23,060
ill patients and this actually speeds up their
deaths and this is practised in many hospitals

868
01:29:23,060 --> 01:29:28,449
around the U.K. and many other countries.
In fact it is mentioned in the Jewish Code

869
01:29:28,449 --> 01:29:32,889
Of Ethics.
"It is forbidden to remove the pillows from

870
01:29:32,889 --> 01:29:36,690
a patient who is terminally ill to speed up
their demise.

871
01:29:36,690 --> 01:29:43,690
So they know that the bed is not the right
way to go and yet hospitals count their success

872
01:29:43,719 --> 01:29:50,719
by the number of beds
Wow, so with the hiatus hernia they already

873
01:29:56,730 --> 01:30:00,020
know that the raised beds work
Yes

874
01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:04,929
Do you think that you can cure the hiatus
hernia with the inclined bed alone or do you

875
01:30:04,929 --> 01:30:11,929
need to do a lot more?
I have not had any feedback from anyone that

876
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:20,239
has said that it has but I haven't been looking
at hiatus hernia because I have been trying

877
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:27,239
to concentrate on conditions that are thought
to be irreversible. Probably I shouldn't have

878
01:30:27,250 --> 01:30:30,989
done that, probably I should have gone down
the route of re-examining what has happened

879
01:30:30,989 --> 01:30:37,010
with hiatus hernia.
But certainly if you get a problem with acid,

880
01:30:37,010 --> 01:30:44,010
and you tilt the bed you notice a great deal
of improvements in the damage that the acid

881
01:30:45,719 --> 01:30:52,719
causes.
And again we know that premature babies in

882
01:30:53,090 --> 01:31:00,090
hospitals are on inclined platforms where
they sleep and yet the parents take them home

883
01:31:00,489 --> 01:31:04,320
and put them on flat beds and that baby has
never been flat.

884
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:11,320
So I don't have any data to say that I have
cured hiatus hernia, but I have not had anyone

885
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,489
come back to me and say that It hasn't been
cured either.

886
01:31:17,489 --> 01:31:22,980
Right right, it's amazing what they do to
hasten deaths and the most frightening one

887
01:31:22,980 --> 01:31:27,710
is the Liverpool Pathway.
What is the Liverpool Pathway?

888
01:31:27,710 --> 01:31:34,500
The Liverpool Pathway is where they starve
the patients to death. They stop giving them

889
01:31:34,500 --> 01:31:38,190
food and water
Right, yes yes.

890
01:31:38,190 --> 01:31:44,719
And so if anybody has an elderly relative
in the hospital and they hear them say that

891
01:31:44,719 --> 01:31:49,159
they are going to put them on the Liverpool
pathway, they are saying that we are going

892
01:31:49,159 --> 01:31:56,159
to kill your mother and father or whatever
it is very slowly now. and it is totally criminal.

893
01:31:57,250 --> 01:32:02,550
I really don't know how they can sleep at
night. I really don't

894
01:32:02,550 --> 01:32:07,889
No I don't either.
So serious issues, what other serious ones

895
01:32:07,889 --> 01:32:14,889
have you seen reversed?
Skin conditions, quite a few people with psoriasis.

896
01:32:17,870 --> 01:32:23,630
A friend of mine, again we mentioned the one
lady with psoriatic arthritis. but there is

897
01:32:23,630 --> 01:32:30,630
another lady with psoriasis and well she took
a series of, well she came down to my home

898
01:32:31,170 --> 01:32:36,630
and we took a series of photographs and then
we took another series of photographs in a

899
01:32:36,630 --> 01:32:43,630
few weeks time and another set of photographs
and the evidence spoke for itself, the skin

900
01:32:44,350 --> 01:32:51,350
was clearing up.
I am trying to think of other conditions.

901
01:32:52,850 --> 01:32:59,850
Spine problems aside from spinal cord injury,
back ache and people with slipped disks, it

902
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:08,980
has definitely helped there and again the
traction applied by the bed eases the joints

903
01:33:08,980 --> 01:33:15,980
apart and on a previous radio interview, the
listeners were invited to try the bed just

904
01:33:19,750 --> 01:33:24,280
put some six inch blocks under your bed and
see what happens and then he invited me back

905
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:31,280
in 3 months and I went back and we had reports
back that people with ms were saying yep it

906
01:33:31,300 --> 01:33:38,300
is helping and varicose veins there were reports
that veins had decreased and snoring. We mentioned

907
01:33:40,719 --> 01:33:47,719
bed wetting earlier with youngsters wetting
the bed and for nurses if you can solve the

908
01:33:50,860 --> 01:33:57,600
problem with people wetting the bed in hospital
it would take a tremendous amount of pressure

909
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:04,600
off the hospital staff.
Sight problems people with sight problems

910
01:34:06,860 --> 01:34:12,800
were reporting that they couldn't actually
see clearly out of their glasses and were

911
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:19,010
going back to their old prescription glasses,
so there were improvements and again that

912
01:34:19,010 --> 01:34:26,010
happened with the first pilot study with ms.
Other people and including one of the guys

913
01:34:26,630 --> 01:34:33,630
with a spinal cord injury that were reporting
there were improvements with the eyesight.

914
01:34:36,860 --> 01:34:43,860
Have we lost you Clive?
Sorry I couldn't get the sound on.

915
01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:48,710
How about hearing?
Any body getting increases in hearing?

916
01:34:48,710 --> 01:34:55,710
Well my..... there is only one case that I
know of it is interesting because it was only

917
01:34:57,570 --> 01:35:01,230
brief.
And then it stopped.

918
01:35:01,230 --> 01:35:08,230
He is not really my Stepfather, but my Mother's
husband, he had meningitis as a child which

919
01:35:12,699 --> 01:35:19,699
left him deaf and we tilted the bed and he
began complaining about the loud noises outside

920
01:35:21,100 --> 01:35:25,840
of the house.
Saying that the police cars were frightening

921
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:31,630
him and ambulances when they went passed.
Now there has not been an upsurge in those

922
01:35:31,630 --> 01:35:35,119
vehicles going passed all of a sudden. They
have been going passed but he hadn't made

923
01:35:35,119 --> 01:35:38,070
the connection that it was helping with his
ears.

924
01:35:38,070 --> 01:35:45,070
But alas the bed went down again so you can
lead a horse to water but you can't make it

925
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:51,040
drink.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't

926
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,949
make them think.
Yes, well that is You can lead a Human to

927
01:35:54,949 --> 01:36:01,659
Knowledge but you can't make them think.
Yeah quite, exactly because knowledge is all

928
01:36:01,659 --> 01:36:08,050
very good but without wisdom to use that knowledge
wisely it is pretty useless.

929
01:36:08,050 --> 01:36:15,050
Hmm But what do we do with this now Clive?
We have got this thing here that could actually

930
01:36:17,119 --> 01:36:22,010
save out NHS a great deal of money and can
save the patients a great deal of suffering.

931
01:36:22,010 --> 01:36:28,219
It would put a stop to amputations.
Oh Gangrene as well, I have had some success

932
01:36:28,219 --> 01:36:35,219
with gangrene, I met a guy down in Paignton
and he had this huge bandage on his foot.

933
01:36:35,820 --> 01:36:42,100
I asked him what the problem was and he said
that he had got gangrene and he went away

934
01:36:42,100 --> 01:36:48,969
and tilted his bed and he got back to me and
said that his surgeon was amazed that the

935
01:36:48,969 --> 01:36:54,139
flesh that his surgeon had been removing from
his foot was actually growing back.

936
01:36:54,139 --> 01:37:01,139
Old scar tissue as well, which is very interesting.
I have had a few reports of old scars that

937
01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:07,580
have been there since childhood with some
people. A lady down the road had a gristly

938
01:37:07,580 --> 01:37:12,440
scar on her chin and it just up and went.
It vanished.

939
01:37:12,440 --> 01:37:19,139
DVT Deep vein thrombosis vanished without
a trace just by increasing the circulation.

940
01:37:19,139 --> 01:37:26,139
You know where do we stop?
Well it is truly amazing and hopefully listeners

941
01:37:27,060 --> 01:37:31,330
hearing this will try and spread this to every
body that they know.

942
01:37:31,330 --> 01:37:38,330
You know there are people that are losing
their lives, losing their health, losing their

943
01:37:39,710 --> 01:37:44,929
income, because of all of these difficulties.
And people forget that we are not meant to

944
01:37:44,929 --> 01:37:51,580
be ill. It isn't normal in the slightest way.
You look at a flock of birds or a school of

945
01:37:51,580 --> 01:37:57,150
fish or a herd of animals in the wild and
simply you can't tell which one is about to

946
01:37:57,150 --> 01:38:01,159
give birth tomorrow, you can't tell the oldest
from the youngest because they are all moving

947
01:38:01,159 --> 01:38:08,159
at the same speed, all together at the same
time and yet humans get diseases just like

948
01:38:08,449 --> 01:38:15,449
any of those animals or birds or fish would
do if you keep them in an unnatural environment.

949
01:38:16,469 --> 01:38:23,469
Yes
We did touch upon fertility and erectile dysfunction

950
01:38:23,719 --> 01:38:30,719
and just an interesting report from a member
of the family who was trying to conceive and

951
01:38:32,639 --> 01:38:39,639
had tried in vitro-fertilisation and she had
spent quite a bit of money trying to conceive

952
01:38:40,810 --> 01:38:47,810
and actually gave up and we tilted the bed.
Or she tilted the bed.

953
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:54,960
And she conceived without the I.V.F. Now I
did mention this before now do the sperm need

954
01:38:57,239 --> 01:39:04,239
to know which way is up and which way is down?
You know is simply being on an angle sufficient

955
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:10,199
to guide the semen to the egg?
It is something that no one has considered.

956
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:13,100
No that's very interesting.
Yeah

957
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:20,100
And is that, have you heard that story quite
often with conception?

958
01:39:22,409 --> 01:39:29,409
No I don't get a great deal of, I do get feed
back but are people willing to talk about

959
01:39:32,210 --> 01:39:39,210
you know their sexual activity to someone
who is not a Doctor. I don't profess to be

960
01:39:43,150 --> 01:39:48,639
a doctor, I have an engineering background.
I am hardly the person that you would wanna

961
01:39:48,639 --> 01:39:55,639
confide in about something so personal?
Certainly with conception matters the people

962
01:39:58,719 --> 01:40:03,010
who, you know the couples who really want
to conceive generally they will go to the

963
01:40:03,010 --> 01:40:07,520
ends of the Earth to do it won't they?
Hopefully they will go to the end of the bed

964
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:12,909
and jack it up.
If you jack it up my word of advice is to

965
01:40:12,909 --> 01:40:19,909
use thick medical books, you know the more
complicated the better, And you might find

966
01:40:21,130 --> 01:40:26,130
that some of that will rub off. Yeah.
Amazing

967
01:40:26,130 --> 01:40:33,130
Yeah and of course you can buy some furniture
risers, you get a pack of 4 from I have seen

968
01:40:36,719 --> 01:40:43,010
them on Ebay for £10 including the postage,
So pop two under your bed and pop two in your

969
01:40:43,010 --> 01:40:48,159
suitcase for when you are away from home.
So when you are propping the bed do you normally

970
01:40:48,159 --> 01:40:53,889
have to prop up the middle of the bed as well?
Yes it depends what kind of bed they have,

971
01:40:53,889 --> 01:40:58,960
if there is a leg there, obviously you will
need to prop the centre leg up.

972
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:05,960
There are a couple of videos about inclined
bed therapy, Deanna Castro talking about her

973
01:41:14,679 --> 01:41:21,679
success, she had ruptured disks, in her neck
and in her back and she was off work. I do

974
01:41:22,429 --> 01:41:26,369
believe that she is back at work.
Against all of the odds.

975
01:41:26,369 --> 01:41:33,369
There is an elderly lady that has been racked
with pain after being hit by a motorcycle

976
01:41:35,929 --> 01:41:42,020
since the age of 13 and she has been in excruciating
pain and when you saw this lady walking you

977
01:41:42,020 --> 01:41:49,020
would imagine that she was drunk, she was
in so much pain but the pain has gone, she

978
01:41:49,949 --> 01:41:56,949
dances she runs, it's incredible.
That's amazing, Gillian in the chat room is

979
01:41:58,460 --> 01:42:05,460
asking are there any different angles of the
tilt that one should apply to any different

980
01:42:05,659 --> 01:42:12,170
problems or is this always the same?
I did specify that people with a spinal cord

981
01:42:12,170 --> 01:42:19,170
injury would need to raise their bed higher
and the logic here is that there is a guy

982
01:42:20,869 --> 01:42:27,350
called Ronald Meyer and he did some experiments
by severing the optic nerve of a fish a frog

983
01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:33,280
a mouse a rat and a rabbit.
And what he did was he showed that the fish

984
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:40,280
and the frog even though he had severed the
optic nerve the same, within a few months

985
01:42:41,619 --> 01:42:46,940
the optic nerve had grown back and both could
see perfectly normally.

986
01:42:46,940 --> 01:42:52,510
But if you think about the posture of the
frog and the fish, if they are lying on their

987
01:42:52,510 --> 01:42:57,260
sides they are generally dead. So they are
always upright, so by severing the optic nerve

988
01:42:57,260 --> 01:43:03,780
the angle from the brain to the eye was intact.
They never interrupted the circulation so

989
01:43:03,780 --> 01:43:07,770
the circulation continued and the repairs
took place.

990
01:43:07,770 --> 01:43:14,770
Now I like to think that these nerves in spinal
cord injury require exactly the same signals

991
01:43:15,010 --> 01:43:19,600
as saplings and seedlings from plants. In
other words, they need to know which way up

992
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:23,659
and which way down is for them to grow in
the right direction and meet their targets.

993
01:43:23,659 --> 01:43:29,150
I think this is where that main problem is
with a spinal cord injury is immediately they

994
01:43:29,150 --> 01:43:32,150
are placed on a flat bed and then they rotate
them.

995
01:43:32,150 --> 01:43:39,150
Now back to Meyer, Meyer his rat his mouse
is rabbit, no nerve regeneration took place

996
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:47,000
because they like ourselves were able to change
posture at will so there was never the constant

997
01:43:47,719 --> 01:43:54,489
direction of gravity to restore the circulation
and repair the damaged nerves. Now with the

998
01:43:54,489 --> 01:44:01,489
bed on a slightly higher angle it represented
the angle of the optic nerve regeneration

999
01:44:02,060 --> 01:44:09,060
in the fish and the frog. And that was the
logic that I came up with to apply the higher

1000
01:44:09,449 --> 01:44:16,449
angle for a person with a spinal cord injury.
And also it would apply to a person with multiple

1001
01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:24,300
sclerosis as well. But the old six inch incline
on a standard U.K. bed is a good rule of thumb.

1002
01:44:26,710 --> 01:44:33,710
But you know, hey experiment you might find
out that raising the bed a little bit higher

1003
01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:38,429
is more beneficial to yourself.
There is no hard and fast rule with this.

1004
01:44:38,429 --> 01:44:45,429
The reason that I came up with the five degree
angle which incidentally was the same angle

1005
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:50,810
that the Ancient Egyptians had come up with
five thousand years ago, I used a loop of

1006
01:44:50,810 --> 01:44:56,780
tubing which I connected so that it was a
closed loop of tubing filled with water with

1007
01:44:56,780 --> 01:45:01,199
a little coloured salt solution at the one
end and that was stretched along the length

1008
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:05,739
of the bed.
Now if I raised the bed up just a few inches,

1009
01:45:05,739 --> 01:45:12,090
i.e. four inches the salts migrated down the
bed but the return flow was in the same side

1010
01:45:12,090 --> 01:45:18,400
of the loop of tubing, i.e the fluid in that
side of the tubing was flowing in two directions

1011
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:24,679
so the down flow was on bottom of the tube
and the return flow was above it in the same

1012
01:45:24,679 --> 01:45:27,900
side.
When you raised the bed to five inches then

1013
01:45:27,900 --> 01:45:34,480
the whole loop circulated, so we added an
extra inch just to be on the safe side as

1014
01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:41,480
a margin of error and it seems to have been
a good choice.

1015
01:45:43,130 --> 01:45:50,130
One of the other things is injuries. Broken
bones. My son broke his wrist and there have

1016
01:45:53,230 --> 01:45:58,230
been other reports as well.
This guy 82 years of age who broke his hip

1017
01:45:58,230 --> 01:46:02,650
and the doom and gloom had set in. You know,
the Doctors and the nurses because he has

1018
01:46:02,650 --> 01:46:08,260
got diabetes and he is 82 years old, you know,
it's er..... Anyway he was out of hospital

1019
01:46:08,260 --> 01:46:13,409
in a few weeks, he said I am not staying in
here, his legs were swollen and he got back

1020
01:46:13,409 --> 01:46:19,670
on his sloping bed and his legs went down
to normal size and he amazed the physiotherapists

1021
01:46:19,670 --> 01:46:25,090
and the healing at 82 years of age was something
they had never seen before.

1022
01:46:25,090 --> 01:46:32,090
But back to my son. He broke his wrist and
he wore a plaster cast for six weeks and he

1023
01:46:32,179 --> 01:46:37,360
went to Torbay Hospital and had the plaster
cast taken off and the muscle wastage was

1024
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:42,170
obvious in one arm. One arm was very thin
and the other arm was normal size and now

1025
01:46:42,170 --> 01:46:48,909
a year later. Oh and he had to have physiotherapy.
He had to have physiotherapy to get his had

1026
01:46:48,909 --> 01:46:55,909
working and he had a lot of pain. and I think
it was a couple of years later that he broke

1027
01:46:55,929 --> 01:47:00,420
the same wrist but this time he does a better
job straight through both bones, he has metal

1028
01:47:00,420 --> 01:47:06,130
plates put in his writs and this was the time
that he was actually in the recovery room

1029
01:47:06,130 --> 01:47:12,949
upside down.
And he has the metal plates in and the plaster

1030
01:47:12,949 --> 01:47:18,770
cast is on for 8 weeks, but it's sort of an
open plaster cast and that's on for eight

1031
01:47:18,770 --> 01:47:24,469
weeks and he goes back to the hospital, the
same hospital and has the plaster cast removed

1032
01:47:24,469 --> 01:47:28,710
and there is no muscle wastage and he doesn't
need physiotherapy.

1033
01:47:28,710 --> 01:47:35,179
Now the surgeon there has to take the two
metal plates out and he can't find the one

1034
01:47:35,179 --> 01:47:40,909
metal plate it has been completely overgrown
by bone and I will quote the guy; "He said

1035
01:47:40,909 --> 01:47:45,159
in the whole of his career he has never seen
bone growth like it in his life."

1036
01:47:45,159 --> 01:47:51,850
Well that's amazing. I would like to ask you
about a friend of mine, someone who 35 years

1037
01:47:51,850 --> 01:47:56,949
ago or something fell out of a tree and broke
his back.

1038
01:47:56,949 --> 01:48:02,199
Yes
He has got a gap in his spine a centimetre

1039
01:48:02,199 --> 01:48:07,320
or two I am not quite sure what. Is there
any chance Inclined Bed Therapy could help?

1040
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:14,320
Yes there is, I have helped some members of
the SAS with spinal cord injury and in fact

1041
01:48:15,790 --> 01:48:22,790
my wife and I were at ring side seats at the
boxing tournament at Hereford and we were

1042
01:48:24,610 --> 01:48:29,489
treated like Royalty and I have been helping
these guys and because their injuries were

1043
01:48:29,489 --> 01:48:36,489
so many years ago and I forget how many years,
one Guy John Cann who was paralysed for 11

1044
01:48:38,300 --> 01:48:45,300
years and he actually walked on Carlton Television
News. In between two parallel bars but you

1045
01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:50,320
can see his legs moving his feet moving, he
got his bowl control back he got his bladder

1046
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:57,320
control back so he passed it on to his friends
at the SAS and this other guy who I can;t

1047
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:04,800
mention his name but I think his injury was
similar length of time to to what you have

1048
01:49:05,719 --> 01:49:12,719
just described there and he said if all that
I get back is my dignity I will be very happy.,

1049
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:20,960
He got his bowel and bladder control back.
After 30 odd years.

1050
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:25,690
Incredible incredible.
But of course if we can intervene at an earlier

1051
01:49:25,690 --> 01:49:32,619
stage and prevent these people from being
on a flat bed in the first place then the

1052
01:49:32,619 --> 01:49:37,679
Sky is the limit.
Yes, well fantastic.

1053
01:49:37,679 --> 01:49:43,340
So for those people that are listening you
are saying before we came on air that you

1054
01:49:43,340 --> 01:49:46,469
are going to write a book or you are in the
process of writing a book?

1055
01:49:46,469 --> 01:49:50,510
Yes.
The book title is going to be called the Gravity

1056
01:49:50,510 --> 01:49:55,360
of Life. Hope you like the choice of the title.
Yes very good

1057
01:49:55,360 --> 01:50:02,360
It's been written a couple of times and I
wouldn't have done it justice I needed to

1058
01:50:03,050 --> 01:50:07,060
have got to this stage before I could have
done the whole subject justice.

1059
01:50:07,060 --> 01:50:12,880
Well that's my excuse anyway and Yeah I think
it's gonna be a real eye opener.

1060
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:18,760
Well hopefully it will be a best seller as
well, when do you think that might come out?

1061
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:25,760
Well it needs to be finished through this
winter and hopefully published in the spring.

1062
01:50:26,630 --> 01:50:32,460
And if people want to see more of your work
what is your website?

1063
01:50:32,460 --> 01:50:37,730
It is inclinedbedtherapy.com
Inclined Bed Therapy Dot Com Excellent

1064
01:50:37,730 --> 01:50:42,830
Well we have a Facebook as well where people
are sharing what is happening to them and

1065
01:50:42,830 --> 01:50:49,210
you will find and again it goes by the same
name on Facebook Inclined Bed Therapy, we

1066
01:50:49,210 --> 01:50:53,860
have a group and a page and there is quite
a few people there who have been sleeping

1067
01:50:53,860 --> 01:50:59,020
on an angled bed for a long time and they
will be willing to share their experiences.

1068
01:50:59,020 --> 01:51:06,020
There is one lady in particular on there Terri,
her name is Terri Harrison she doesn't believe

1069
01:51:10,010 --> 01:51:16,570
that she has ms any more it has gone completely,
her neurologist has actually told her that

1070
01:51:16,570 --> 01:51:23,570
she doesn't need him any more. So that is
quite remarkable but she is there for people

1071
01:51:23,650 --> 01:51:27,860
to talk to amongst many other people who are
trying it.

1072
01:51:27,860 --> 01:51:33,639
The problem is you are armed with this information,
you have listened to this radio station and

1073
01:51:33,639 --> 01:51:36,849
you will go out there and you will try and
convince someone and they will just look at

1074
01:51:36,849 --> 01:51:43,040
you as if you have gone daft. You know I don't
know why it is, I used to chase wheelchairs

1075
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:48,580
and try and help people but I stopped that
a long time ago no body listens.

1076
01:51:48,580 --> 01:51:54,090
Well it's a great shame, the words I hear
quite often are if that where true the doctors

1077
01:51:54,090 --> 01:52:01,090
would have told me..
Yes Yes, The one I hear all the time is is

1078
01:52:01,239 --> 01:52:07,110
if it was true then there would be a clinically
controlled double blinded trial and we would

1079
01:52:07,110 --> 01:52:13,690
have all of the data by now. But actually
the people that say this have no idea what

1080
01:52:13,690 --> 01:52:20,690
we are up against. No idea whatsoever! You
can't move these people! They are in the process

1081
01:52:21,380 --> 01:52:26,849
of the status quo, they like the status quo
and the last thing they want to do is be made

1082
01:52:26,849 --> 01:52:33,150
to look a fool and a lot of them believe me
are fools.

1083
01:52:33,150 --> 01:52:37,460
Well quite, so have we covered all of the
things that it will do?

1084
01:52:37,460 --> 01:52:44,460
No No No, I just get... I try and think back
to what we have talked about, we have talked

1085
01:52:48,639 --> 01:52:55,639
about scar tissue, we have talked about the
immune system especially with the ebola but

1086
01:52:56,909 --> 01:53:03,909
also that same applies to people with aids
and hiv, the same problem there is a diminished

1087
01:53:06,260 --> 01:53:13,260
immune response so.
Yes, Ok there is a guy who has died now which

1088
01:53:19,530 --> 01:53:26,530
was unfortunate, but when I met him this guy
called Danny he had months to live with leukaemia

1089
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:34,840
and we tilted the bed and his blood cell count
started to normalise and have to cross check

1090
01:53:35,610 --> 01:53:41,790
here just to at this point in time that when
astronauts go into space their white blood

1091
01:53:41,790 --> 01:53:47,739
cell count goes up and their red blood cell
count drops. So clearly gravity is playing

1092
01:53:47,739 --> 01:53:54,739
a role.
And when we tilted Danny's bed his white blood

1093
01:53:55,119 --> 01:53:59,980
cell count dropped and his red blood cell
count went up, which is the exact opposite

1094
01:53:59,980 --> 01:54:06,980
of what leukaemia is. This guy comes over
from Boston as specialist in leukaemia and

1095
01:54:10,130 --> 01:54:17,130
he can't believe the changes. So anyway this
guy doesn't need the chemotherapy and the

1096
01:54:21,980 --> 01:54:28,980
radio therapy any more so comes back to Paignton
from Cornwall and they take his bed off him

1097
01:54:29,940 --> 01:54:35,389
because he can't move that bed out of one
area to another area so he goes back to sleeping

1098
01:54:35,389 --> 01:54:39,630
on a flat bed.
Immediately his blood cell count goes hey

1099
01:54:39,630 --> 01:54:45,199
wire and this guy from Boston get's on the
phone and says what has happened, what has

1100
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:50,219
changed? So he told him about the bed, so
the guy from Boston said the bed Danny, get

1101
01:54:50,219 --> 01:54:57,219
then bed back on an angle. And he did and
he lived well I can't remember exactly but

1102
01:54:58,500 --> 01:55:05,500
I think it was like five or six years and
he was given months to live.

1103
01:55:07,429 --> 01:55:14,429
Wow
So that I would suspect as well that there

1104
01:55:16,060 --> 01:55:23,060
is a danger with the bed that it can actually
increased the effectiveness of drugs and again

1105
01:55:26,150 --> 01:55:32,429
if you take the astronauts in space, they
have to increase the doses in space because

1106
01:55:32,429 --> 01:55:38,230
the uptake while they are out there which
is the equivalent of being on a flat bed,

1107
01:55:38,230 --> 01:55:43,570
decreases the effectiveness of the drugs so
they increaser the drugs to support their

1108
01:55:43,570 --> 01:55:49,739
immune system or whatever problems they have
and I believe that when you have the bed on

1109
01:55:49,739 --> 01:55:55,170
an angle the opposite occurs and you have
to think about decreasing the drugs.

1110
01:55:55,170 --> 01:56:01,429
It could be a good thing.
Yeah but I have to be careful here because

1111
01:56:01,429 --> 01:56:06,900
if a doctor is prescribing those drugs to
you and you have got all of your faith in

1112
01:56:06,900 --> 01:56:13,900
that doctor then you have to make these choices
yourself and not just on what I am saying

1113
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:21,560
here but it is quite easy to monitor whether
the drug is being more effective or not so

1114
01:56:23,860 --> 01:56:28,860
decide for yourselves.
Right very interesting and hopefully people

1115
01:56:28,860 --> 01:56:34,389
who are listening to this will try the inclined
bed therapy method and will get back to Andrew

1116
01:56:34,389 --> 01:56:40,780
or myself to let us know what positive results
you get because clearly

1117
01:56:40,780 --> 01:56:45,090
Well negative results as well Clive, you know
I am interested in things that it doesn't

1118
01:56:45,090 --> 01:56:48,599
work with as well.
Yep yes clearly.

1119
01:56:48,599 --> 01:56:55,599
We have got about two minutes left and I would
just like to say that myself I have a weekend

1120
01:57:00,389 --> 01:57:07,070
workshop from next month from the 15th and
the 16th of November, held in Wiltshire and

1121
01:57:07,070 --> 01:57:13,489
if any body wanted to come to the weekend
workshop we will be covering every aspect

1122
01:57:13,489 --> 01:57:20,489
of physical health and also mind mastering
because clearly there is so much one can do

1123
01:57:21,469 --> 01:57:26,869
with the power of the mind that people are
unaware of and with the raised bed therapy

1124
01:57:26,869 --> 01:57:33,869
and all of the other stuff, treatments and
remedies that we know of... frankly there

1125
01:57:35,210 --> 01:57:42,210
is almost nothing that can't be solved, I
used to think that people on dialysis couldn't

1126
01:57:42,510 --> 01:57:49,159
get off but you can get off dialysis in not
every case possibly but in a lot of cases

1127
01:57:49,159 --> 01:57:56,159
and I am going to start now, I mean I already
have been but I am really going to suggest

1128
01:57:57,199 --> 01:58:03,920
to all of my clients big time that every single
one of them does the Inclined Bed and I will

1129
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:09,290
let you know what occurs.
Yes, please please please, the feedback is

1130
01:58:09,290 --> 01:58:14,670
so important every little bit of feedback
that we get means that eventually another

1131
01:58:14,670 --> 01:58:21,670
clinical trial will be made and when we actually
get some progress within the medical profession

1132
01:58:22,929 --> 01:58:29,929
then these reports will be so important because
anecdotal evidence one could be deemed as

1133
01:58:33,330 --> 01:58:37,739
a miracle, two could be a coincidence three
is just plain science.

1134
01:58:37,739 --> 01:58:44,739
We are at the end of the show now, than you
so much Andrew. My email is Clive at ancientpurity.com

1135
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:52,739
so if anyone wants to get in touch with me
they are very welcome. Also got a website

1136
01:58:52,739 --> 01:58:59,080
called ancientpurity.com and another one called
healthgenious.uk and so thank you very much

1137
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:03,739
Andrew Thank you every body for listening.
Thank you for having me on Clive.

1138
01:59:03,739 --> 01:59:10,739
Well thank you so much I really appreciate
all of your time and that's it from us good

1139
01:59:11,770 --> 01:59:18,770
night.
Good night people.

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Questions:

Migraine Headaches?
Are you in the habit of visiting the bathroom many times during the night?
Does your child wet the bed?
Do You wake up each morning feeling worse than before you got into bed?
Do you believe that the bed you sleep in is healing you while you sleep?
Have you woken up with paralysis that wasn't there the night before?
Do you experience sleep paralysis?
Do you or your partner snore loudly?
Do you have diabetes?
Do you have multiple sclerosis?
Have you injured your spine?
Do you experience constant back ache?
Does your child have cerebral palsy?
Do you have an adjustable bed?
Do you suffer from poor circulation?
Do you have a leg ulcer?
Do you have varicose veins?
Do you have Parkinson's Disease?
Do you or your partners hands and feet feel cold when your in bed?
Do you experience poor sleep or suffer from insomnia?
Are you afraid you might not wake up if you go to bed?
Do you have restless legs / Ekbom syndrome?
On rising from bed, does it take a while for you to become mobile?
Does your face look puffy when you get out of bed?
Do you have Bells Palsy?
Do you or someone you know have a viral infection such as HIV, Aids, Ebola Etc?
Have you ever thought it might be the bed that is causing your health issues?

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We had one of our most fascinating shows to date today with Andrew K Fletcher.

Do yourself a favor and check out this podcast. Could be life changing. We're going to try it.

Patrick Timpone 23 June:

Andrew K. Fletcher -- The Phenomenal Health Benefits of Inclined Bed Therapy -- June 23, 2014

THE MORNING SHOW with Patrick Timpone

Andrew K. Fletcher: Inclined Bed Therapy (IBT)

20 years ago Andrew made a phenomenal discovery in circulation and how gravity acts upon fluid density changes that take place in all fluids where water is evaporated. In trees (Where this theory began) evaporation from the leaves alters the density of sap. In the body, the warm lungs and airways provide the same density changes in the blood and other fluids. It was not long before it became obvious that posture was incredibly more important than anyone could imagine. To make use of these density changes and allow them to assist the circulation all we needed to do was to manage our posture.

This was a Eureka moment of such magnitude it went off the scale for Andrew and instantly gave birth to Inclined Bed Therapy.
Show Highlights:

-Andrew explains how learning about how trees uptake water led him to understand the benefits of inclined bed therapy
-How is it possible that varicose veins can disappear using inclined bed therapy?
-The evidence is overwhelming that the Egyptians slept this way
-Andrew describes the circulation process
-What kind of improvements can be expected by just raising the head of the bed by 6 inches?
-The excellent health benefits of using gravity: Andrew explains why astronauts age more quickly when in space
-Observing animals in nature, you will notice that most find an incline to sleep on
-Andrew and Patrick invite our listeners to try inclined bed therapy and report on their experiences to us. We will have Andrew back on the show at summer's end: http://oneradionetwork.com/health/andrew-k-fletcher-phenomenal-health-benefits-inclined-bed-therapy-june-23-2014/

Visit IBT Website: http://inclinedbedtherapy.com
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The video contains an explanation of perhaps the most important discovery in circulation since science began. It begins by explaining how gravity drives the circulation in trees and plants and quickly moves on to explain how gravity fits with human circulation and how simply tilting a bed by raising it 6 inches / 15 cm or more, higher at the head end will have a profound affect on a whole range of medical conditions currently thought to be irreversible. The literature states erroneously that gravity does not play a roll in circulation because it acts equally on the ascending and descending sides . Massive blunder. My son suggested I send this in to you and ask you to view it. I have been working on this discovery for 20 years now helping as many people that will listen as possible. Sadly many people have been conditioned to accept the advice of doctors, who believe that everything in their manuals is irrefutable. Science however tells us that nothing is set in stone and progress happens in the most unlikely corners.

http://aging.ufl.edu/files/2011/01/deconditioning_campbell.pdf

Flat bed rest, which is known to cause multiple organ failure is forced upon people with viral infections?
IBT will without doubt make a huge difference to survival and recovery rates from Ebola and many other conditions.

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Phenomenal Breakthrough for Your Health and Fitness in Circulation Driven by Gravity in these two important videos, that surprisingly costs nothing.

The inclined bed therapy challenge 3 months after Andrew made predictions about how simply raising the head end of your bed by six inches would have a positive impact for people with a wide range of illnesses in his first interview. The results reported from our listeners are in. Listen to this interview to find out and please consider leaving your own comments in the ‘comment section’ below.

http://oneradionetwork.com/health/andrew-k-fletcher-results-inclined-bed-therapy-follow-show-september-15/

http://inclinedbedtherapy.com/inclinedbedtherapy

http://youtu.be/Z9zWUZB7hAQ

Good science is repeatable and predictable. Patrick Timpone, during his radio show, while interviewing Andrew K Fletcher about his discovery in circulation and Inclined Bed Therapy, asked his listeners to put Andrew's theory to the test. He then invited him back to give another interview and to listen to what has changed for people who decided to test IBT for themselves.

Andrew made predictions about neurological conditions improving, along with varicose veins, spine problems, snoring, sleep problems, night time urination and much more.

The second interview explains much more about IBT and in it Andrew states that no babies should be placed horizontally in a flat cot / crib and that he had been told that his discovery in circulation had solved Sudden Infant Death Syndrome by The Former Foundation For The Study Of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, who were the main advocates of the Back to Sleep Campaign. The person that said this was Dr S. Chantler, who was the senior research advisor to the charity. The charity has since changed it's name to the Lullaby Trust. He adds that they did nothing to investigate his findings?

He also discusses a recent trial / study conducted independently into diabetes, which has shown that blood sugar can be reduced simply by raising the head end of the bed 6 inches / 15cm.

Doctor Oliver Sacks  RIP

http://www.oliversacks.com/

Letter he never responded to, written 24/10/2007

Dear Doctor Sacks 

I have recently found your site. I have known of your research from the awakenings and from many years of research into neurological conditions myself.

In 1994 I made an astonishing discovery into the driving force behind circulation in trees and plants. I have identified a non living physical force that generates circulation.

The logic is somewhat simple, possibly too simple to be thought of much use, However, using the principles of this discovery, I have been testing it with the help of people who have an open mind, much like yourself, on a whole range of neurological conditions.

My discovery is in how evaporation from the respiratory tract, eyes, skin and sinus changes the density of the bodies fluids releasing tiny pulses of salts into the body fluids, where gravity pulls the denser fluids down the vertical tubes generating a positive pressure in front of the falling solutes and a negative pressure and applied tension behind the falling solutes that provides the return flow of fluids with a boost. The spent solutes are excreted in the urine after being filtered by the kidneys, filtered blood is then less dense so can be pulled back up towards the heart in the venous return.

I can hear you thinking then what is the hearts purpose. This flow system is responsible for the development of the pulsatile flow evident in embryology long before the heart has formed. I cannot look at an inanimate drawing in a textbook now without seeing how this flow system applies. It brings the drawings to life when one understands this beautifully simple yet powerful process.

I believe this knowledge will enable people in catatonic state to recover function.

Having applied the logic to the way we sleep and sit, and modifying posture so that the body is never placed flat against a mattress but kept on a slight five degree head up angle to allow this flow system to continue 24 hours a day 7 days a week has proved highly effective in helping to reverse conditions including Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, and spinal cord injury.

I have so much information to share with you doctor Sachs, I am hoping to stimulate enough interest to ask you if you would be so kind as to test my theory on some of your patients who are believed to be beyond help and who are contemplating risky surgery with little chance of success.

I have been wanting to talk with you about this discovery, but for some reason believed you had completely removed yourself from your research or had passed away. I am delighted to find that I was wrong on both counts.

I have absolutely no doubt that you will find this discovery as fascinating as I have and I believe emphatically that it can help your patients and friends as it has helped my family, friends and many people who I have not met.

My current research has led me to psoriasis, again using the same principles to show how skin lesions can vanish or vastly improve without drugs.

I look forward very much to your reply

Kind regards and a great deal of respect

Andrew K Fletcher

http://inclinedbedtherapy.com

25/1/95
Professor Brian Pentecost MD FRCP British Heart Foundation fax 0171 486 1273  https://www.bhf.org.uk/
Andrew K Fletcher 26 Berry Drive, Paignton,
Devon,     TQ3 3QW

Dear Professor Pentecost,

Further to my last correspondence I am delighted to inform you of the following observations, which are recorded by people who have simply raised the angle in which they sleep by six inches at the head end of their beds.

Osteoporosis
Lady aged 66 * symptoms severe loss of movement in spine, unable to move, lethargy, and considerable pain, insomnia, and feeling cold in bed. The lady recently visited my home to tell me of her complete recovery which she says
is a miracle, she wishes to make her recovery public. Her spouse who is 67 * symptoms problems with water-works, testicular pains, large weeping scar on left arm since he was ten which needs constant attention due to
rawness and weeping, aches and pains attributed to his age. •j; also has made a full recovery and feels ten years younger, his scar has developed new healthy skin and no longer requires attention. He also says its a miracle and wishes it to be made public.

Lady who was told of the observation on scar tissue informed me that a facial scar which has remained raised and visible since she was six has now almost vanished and was visible when she started the experiment. She has gained a half inch in height which suggests her spine has somehow straitened. My own scar on my right leg is now less visible.

A lady has informed me of an overall improvement of Peripheral vestibular disorder of the inner ear which affected her balance, and aches and pains in her spine. Her mother suffers from osteoporosis and told her that the problems in her spine were the same for her when she was told that she had the illness.

MS A middle aged male is showing signs of improvement from MS, His therapist at Torbay Hospital has commented that his upper body strength has improved to a point that he can now hold his upper torso erect. He can stand in a frame and drink a cup of tea at the same time. His skin has changed colour and some sensation has returned to his legs, he can now distinguish between warm and cold and can feel the ground beneath his feet.

Cerebral palsy

A young girl in Kent
has reported that her condition is improving and she feels a lot happier since she raised her bed ; early days yet.

My father has suffered from varicose ulcers for forty years, he had five ulcers and his skin he described as like plaster of paris. He also suffers from varicose veins and considerable pain. His ulcers have now healed, his veins are deflating and when his skin peels off now he has new healthy skin forming. All pain has gone.

The heart
A friend who has an artificial valve in his heart, noticed that his feet and hands have returned to a normal colour but even more astonishing he noticed that when he lays horizontally his heart beat becomes irregular. Yet when he lays at an angle his heart beat becomes stable and appears to be getting stronger. These are just a few examples but clearly indicate dramatic physiological changes.
With kind regards  Andrew K Fletcher       /

Subject : Multiple Sclerosis

A case which again is not directly linked, but relevant is that of Marion Carrol which was shown on BBC's Strange But True. Marion was suffering from an advanced stage of MS showing all of the symptoms for the advanced stages of this illness. Marion visited the Blessing of The Sick at Knock which is said to be the place of miracles in Ireland.
Knock is geographically elevated, and therefore relatively less humid than a lowland area or river valley. On her return from Knock Marion actually rose from the stretcher and walked and has now made a full recovery with no aches or pains in the last six years. Her GP believes that a miracle has occurred in Knock and Dr Diardmuid Murray (Knock Medical Bureau) is employed to try to give a medical explanation as to why this event could have occurred
. The Stretcher Which Marion was strapped to for a considerable length of time ,measured in days, Was elevated to an almost sitting position with a further inclusion of a sloping position for her legs. This meant that she was in a similar position to the lady mentioned earlier who recovered from the liver disorder.

Comment
I Believe that the combination of prolonged resting position, altitude, and reduction in humidity, was responsible for Marion's recovery and not the divine intervention at present is the accepted explanation, however the very fact that Marion spent the time in on the stretcher was a direct "result of her visiting the shrine and therefore the whole picture could be attributed to her visit to Knock.

Subject : Other observations
I have observed a general overall improvement of health in all who have taken pert in this experiment so far. Mainly in our ability to fight infections, colds & influenza. This must surely be attributed to a boosted metabolic rate. With the above comment in mind I would like to draw your attention to a recent program on AIDS in Africa. A group of people who appear to have immunity to the disease are being examined to try to determine why they have not been infected by the disease which in some cases has wiped out whole villages, including their immediate family. The interest in this group of people stems from their profession which is prostitution . Prostitution in what is now described as the AIDS Capital of The World is surely the most dangerous profession in the World. Yet these people do not get AIDS or HIV. Why not ?

What do we do while a prostitute is actively occupied by the nature of her profession, answer : We sleep. In addition to the fact that a prostitute in a developing country will probably have at least one child to look after during the daylight hours, it can be safely assumed that this group of people are less likely to spend a long time laying horizontal.

Natural or unnatural sleep ?

Is Sleeping Flat A Natural Process adopted by other species or are humans doing something different ?
If one gives a dog some bedding they proceed to gather it up under their chest which effectively raises the position of sleep. In the wild dogs dig out an earth which has sloping sides again facilitating an angled sleep.

Cows and sheep given a choice will always sleep on an angle facing uphill. I have recently visited Snowdonia National Park. During my journey I noticed that entire flocks of sheep were sleeping with their heads facing uphill despite the fact that there was ample level ground in the field. The same observations were made with cattle Alligators and crocodiles sleep facing up the river bank and I now believe that their position in relation to the direction of gravity facilitates an increase in metabolism.

The giraffe don't / can't sleep flat and spend most of their time on the hoof, fish, birds, lizards, frogs, toads and most mammals do not sleep flat when allowed choice. Even a snake raises itself before striking.

The question remains as to why humans have adopted the ritual of sleeping flat and more to the point does history tell us of a different attitude towards sleeping position ?

Experiment : To raise the angle of sleep by a minimum of six inches at the head end of the bed, which facilitates gravity running through the body from head to toe while sleeping.
Anticipated response to experiment was merely to see if any visible improvements to health could be achieved.

Subject: Varicose veins.
Three ladies who took part in the experiment reported that varicose veins on their legs had deflated and all pain from them had gone. It took four weeks to effectively deflate two out of the three conditions The third lady whose veins were considerably worse took several months to deflate.

Explanation

I used a loop of soft walled tubing filled with water. A tiny amount of coloured salt water was added and the tube was then joined to create an enclosed circuit. The tubing was then elevated to lift the salt solution to the top of the tubing. The salt water represents the concentration which I believe occur as a result of the loss of moisture from the lungs and skin.
Observation
salt solution which I coloured began its journey down one side of the tube causing water to be pulled and pushed up the other side. As this occurs the downward flowing salt exerts an outward pressure on the tube. The upward flowing water of the other side exerted a visible negative pressure within causing the tube to deflate. This gives an explanation for the deflation of the varicose veins.

Subject : paralysis

Participant of sixty years mentioned above as the third lady. Full Symptoms. Loss of movement in the toes and ankle of left leg, loss of sensation and severe swelling of the affected limb for over five years. Hands shaking badly when held out, and severe varicose veins. Cold feet in bed (bad circulation). Observation

Four weeks after the start date, I received a call to tell me that she could now move her toes and ankle. Her legs and feet feel warm while in bed. After four months I visited her to find that her veins had disappeared except for one which runs over her knee. The swelling had gone and the sensation had returned to her leg. But even more astonishing her hands no longer shook.

She admitted that her bed had been placed flat for a few weeks only to find that her symptoms started to reappear. Needless to say she will not be laying flat again.

Her husband who is sixty five, Symptoms : Deafness due to childhood meningitis infection, back ache, arthritis.

Observation
Five weeks into the experiment complained about pain in the ears. Went to GP who could not offer an explanation. Four months into experiment, complained about an increased level of traffic noise outside their home, particularly police sirens ? Its too early to make any comment but I am watching this reaction with interest.

Subject : Muscles
Almost all participants have recorded something happening to their muscles. In particular myself my wife and two boys ages fourteen and fifteen have observed that our muscles appear to be responding in a way that one usually attributes to weight training. More an awareness than an ache. Muscles appear to be growing and increasing in firmness.

Subject : Spine
Several participants have reported a side effect which causes an ache in the centre of the spine which gradually moves into the neck causing stiffness and finally disappears after a week or so.

Comment There is obviously some activity in the central nervous system and spine. Have now decided to include a patient with a spinal injury who lost the use of his legs after a motorcycle accident.

                                                                    University Of Exeter

Department of Complimentary Medicine

Postgraduate Medical School

03/06/1998

Dear Mr Fletcher,                             Thank you for demonstrating your fluid transport theory to us, we were truly fascinated. I will see whether we can set up a controlled trial for leg ulcer healing.I will keep you informed. Yours sincerely. Professor Edzard Ernst

THE LANCET
42 Bedford Square London WC1B SSL United Kingdom
TEL  +44(0)171 4364981 FAX +44 (0)171 436 7570
JB/HEG                                    Please quote ref:
17 September 1997
Mr Andrew Fletcher
The Multiple Sclerosis Resource Centre
4a Chapel Hill
Stanstead
ESSEX CM24 SAG

Dear Mr Fletcher,
I am pleased to see that some of the patients treated improved.
For our purposes, however, this account cannot be accepted as proof of efficacy. Testing new treatments in MS is a very difficult business because of the day-to-day variability of the disease.
With best wishes. Yours sincerely,
John Bignall MB Senior Editor

U.S. Agent for The Lancet, 655 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY 10010
The Lancet Limited, 42 Bedford Square, London WC1B 3SL, U.K. Registered in England. Company number 1016593 England.

No reply sadly so guess it never reached him. RIP
Terry Pratchett
c/o Colin Smythe

Colin Smythe Limited
Publishers.
Gerrards Cross
Buckinghamshire.
SL9 8XA. UK
England

Tuesday, 07 October 2008

Alzheimers.

We may be looking at a simple method of reversing short-term memory loss.

Dear Terry

Your books rely on other people reading them. My son, being someone who is an avid fan, first drew my attention to you as an author.

But reading books is not the reason for my letter today.

This letter is to ask you to read about my work on reversal of neurological conditions. Hearing you on the radio again relaying thoughts and observations on Alzheimer’s and how it is affecting your life and career, I would like to help you fight back and regain control of your memory.

Brief Introduction to history of a fascinating discovery in circulation.

In 1994, I began researching circulation in trees and plants to find out how they used salts from the soils and sugars produced by the leaves. As an engineer and scientist by nature with an enquiring lateral line of thought, I pulled the literature to bits, realising it to be wholly inadequate. Reassembled it in a coherent simplified explanation that explains how trees use gravity in order to lift water to great heights in a simple flow and return system driven by evaporation at the leaves (currently & erroneously believed to be an unavoidable loss that serves little purpose) Ironically, the same mistake has been made in human physiology.

Far from it being of little purpose, evaporation from the leaves of trees and indeed the respiratory tract turns out to be very important.

Evaporated water does not contain dissolved mineral salts and sugars. Yet the liquid it dissolves from does contain salts and sugars, making evaporation very important in concentrating these dissolved solutes making them denser and heavier than surrounding fluids, triggering a gravity driven flow in the direction of the ground. If you are upright and mobile, the circulation inside the vessels becomes positively influenced and providing our vessels are inline with the direction of gravity running from head to toe both the central and peripheral nervous system is optimised for repairing itself and maintaining order.

When we sleep flat on a bed, we are ignorant to the fact that gravity maintains our vital functions. This is precisely why a person with multiple sclerosis, Parkinson’s disease and Alzheimer’s begin to notice changes first thing in the morning with a progression towards degeneration of the body and it’s functions most of us take for granted.

So what is the purpose of this letter to you?

Since the end of 1994. I have been working alone testing and retesting this theory by introducing a slightly inclined bed. So that it slopes down from head to toe at an angle of five degrees to the horizontal. This usually requires the head end of the bed to be raised by 6 inches or 15 centimetres. More if the bed is longer than 6’-3”

The thread below shows how the theory stands up against current literature with circulation, oedema (fluid retention) and varicose veins. Varicose veins being the first visible observation of changes indicating this theory is undoubtedly correct.

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=9843.0

To see the changes that can be achieved with conditions including spinal cord injury, the video on youtube shows its effects clearly, yet even this has been ignored by the medical profession.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3D7tBQfCxQ

There are other video’s on my youtube account that show this powerful flow and return circulation system and well worth viewing.

The point this letter is trying to make to you is that simply tilting your bed may arrest your Alzheimer’s and may reverse your current memory impairment, which in your own words this morning on Radio 4 happens in the morning while trying to determine what it is you are trying to do.

During many years researching multiple sclerosis, two people in a group of 14 who have long term progressive ms, reported improved short term memory. Not something we were looking for at the time, but it has certainly opened a few doors for research. One account from an elderly lady in Teignmouth relayed that she would normally walk to the door to do something but try as she may, she could not remember what it was. Now she walks to the door and still forgets but after a minute or so can recall what she was trying to do. While this is not a person with Alzheimer’s, it is a person with a memory problem lacking further diagnosis.

What am I after?

I have helped many thousands of people over the years and have not received financial reward and indeed have not asked for financial reward. I don’t intend to ask you for it now either, so if you have assumed this is another begging letter please think again.

What I would hope to achieve by helping you to fight your illness is for you to help others to learn about this simple non-invasive free therapy and progress it towards becoming part of our mainstream arsenal against disease and injury.

Eventually leading to a small controlled study monitored by doctors and nurses, conducted in a home environment, influenced by anecdotal evidence from yourself and others, forcing it to take place.

How does this sound to you Terry?

Kind regards    

Andrew

Mr A K Fletcher 26 Berry Drive Paignton Devon TQ3 3QW
14/08/96  

Parkinson's Disease Society   http://www.parkinsons.org.uk
22 Upper Woburn Place, London
-fax: 0171 383 5754

Dear Mr Fletcher,
Thank you for your letter about elevating the head end of the bed for the treatment of Parkinson's Disease. I have discussed your theories with one of our medical experts on Parkinson's Disease who has advised me that he has used the technique of raising the head end of the bed in people with Parkinson's who suffer from low blood pressure as a treatment for their low blood pressure. However, the mechanism whereby this technique is of benefit to those with low blood pressure is well known and differs from that which you propose. The results of a trial to test efficacy of raised beds for PD might be confounded by the effect on blood pressure.
There is no substantive evidence to support a formal research project to evaluate your proposal.
I am sorry that this outcome is less encouraging than you had hoped. With best wishes Yours sincerely

Helen Pask  Research Coordinator